From: John Richard Moser <nigelenki@comcast.net>
To: davidm@hpl.hp.com
Cc: Jack Steiner <steiner@sgi.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] - Reduce TLB flushing during process migration
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 09:52:30 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <40EC001E.5020508@comcast.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16619.15708.487344.93894@napali.hpl.hp.com>
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David Mosberger wrote:
|>>>>>On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 12:39:05 -0500, Jack Steiner <steiner@sgi.com>
said:
|
| Well, then it's not a true no-op. The other no-ops are all for
| init-type stuff, so they're not at all performance critical. Even
| when compiling a non-generic kernel, those no-op functions will be
| called. This is really a limitation in the current machvec-scheme. I
| think what we need is a way to explicitly declare a no-op callback,
| such that it can be optimized away completely for platforms that don't
| need it. Perhaps there could be something along the lines of:
|
| #ifdef CONFIG_IA64_GENERIC
| # define machvec_noop(noop_function) noop_function
| #else
| # define machvec_noop(noop_function) /* empty */
| #endif
|
?????
1. At any -O level, I'd assume the loop optimizer or something along
those lines would see a 1 iteration loop and remove the actual loop
instruction:
MOV CX,1 ; 1 iteration
...
LOOP ; Just DEC CX and falls through
In the pseudocode above, we can clearly see that the MOV and the LOOP
perform no real function. The optimizer *should* AFAIK notice that a
do{...}while(0) generates useless looping instructions and thus prevent
those instructions from being generated. In the case of do{}while(0),
this generates 0 instructions.
2. A function call to a no-op is an unoptimizable and excessive
overhead compared to do{}while(0) in most cases; the no-op would need to
be inline assembly, thus maintained for each arch, AFAIK.
3. An actual no-op instruction still needs to be iterated past by the
processor. Usually, no-op is only generated by the compiler for
padding, AFAIK; and even then, there's some kind of jump before the load
of no-ops to get past them. I don't know if inline assembly is
optimized out; but I would assume not.
4. I don't think /* empty */; is an error; but the following block has
problems:
if (foo)
~ ;
else
~ do_something();
So, we need something that gets parsed to exactly nothing.
Thus, as far as I can understand, because we use -O2 or -Os, we will
always get exactly 0 instructions from do{}while(0). This is the best
solution to the problem.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-07-07 13:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-06-23 14:38 [PATCH] - Reduce TLB flushing during process migration Jack Steiner
2004-06-23 21:33 ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-24 12:55 ` Jack Steiner
2004-06-24 18:44 ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-25 14:23 ` Jack Steiner
2004-06-26 5:10 ` David Mosberger
2004-07-02 17:39 ` Jack Steiner
2004-07-07 0:01 ` David Mosberger
2004-07-07 13:52 ` John Richard Moser [this message]
2004-07-07 15:48 ` Jack Steiner
2004-07-07 18:30 ` David Mosberger
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