From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
nigelenki@comcast.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
ck@vds.kolivas.org
Subject: Re: Autoregulate swappiness & inactivation
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 18:12:47 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <40ED01FF.6010206@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cone.1089273829.122131.4554.502@pc.kolivas.org>
Con Kolivas wrote:
> Nick Piggin writes:
>
>> OK that's easy then. The OOM algorithm can be changed if it is
>> OOMing too easily.
>
>
> I didn't say it was easy, just harder with; but whatever - I can get rid
> of it.
>
Please.
>>>> Secondly, can you please not mess with the exported sysctl. If you
>>>> think your "autoswappiness" calculation is better than the current
>>>> swappiness one, just completely replace it. Bonus points if you can
>>>> retain the swappiness knob in some capacity.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree and would like them all removed, but people just love to
>>> leave the knobs in place. While I dont think the knobs should still
>>> be there either, I'm not reluctant to leave something that innocuous
>>> if the users want them.
>>>
>>
>> Well, get rid of the auto-tuning thing to start with, and merge
>> it into the swappiness calculation..
>>
>> Regarding all these knobs, the main thing you want to avoid is
>> having loads of them because you can't find acceptable defaults.
>> I think "swappiness" is in the category of a good sysctl: it is
>> simple, meaningful to the admin, works, etc.
>>
>> It has proven somewhat useful in testing ("set it to blah and see
>> if it still happens"). Or for people who know what they are doing.
>
>
> Umm I think we're agreeing, no? I'm trying to leave the swappiness knob
> in for those who (think?) they know what they're doing. Somehow it needs
> to be turned to "manual" again.
>
No. Fold your all "autoswappiness" stuff directly into the
reclaim_mapped calculation that was previously keyed off swappiness.
Don't have it modify vm_swappiness at all: work directly on
reclaim_mapped.
Then, you should be able to retain the user's vm_swappiness input
into the system as well. If you can't figure out a good place to
put this in, don't worry about it to start with.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-07-08 8:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-07-07 15:16 2.6.7-ck5 Con Kolivas
2004-07-07 15:39 ` 2.6.7-ck5 John Richard Moser
2004-07-07 15:47 ` 2.6.7-ck5 Con Kolivas
2004-07-07 15:53 ` 2.6.7-ck5 Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-07-07 16:11 ` 2.6.7-ck5 P
2004-07-07 17:10 ` 2.6.7-ck5 Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-07-07 16:17 ` 2.6.7-ck5 Redeeman
2004-07-08 4:38 ` 2.6.7-ck5 Andrew Morton
2004-07-08 6:40 ` [PATCH] Autoregulate swappiness & inactivation Con Kolivas
2004-07-08 6:45 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-08 7:06 ` [PATCH] " Nick Piggin
2004-07-08 7:12 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-08 7:31 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-08 8:03 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-08 8:12 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2004-07-08 17:06 ` John Richard Moser
2004-07-08 17:14 ` [ck] " Mikhail Ramendik
2004-07-08 17:10 ` [ck] Re: [PATCH] " Mikhail Ramendik
2004-07-09 1:03 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-08 7:10 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-08 7:58 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-08 8:08 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-08 8:27 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-08 10:54 ` FabF
2004-07-09 1:05 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-09 9:48 ` FabF
2004-07-09 10:43 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-09 11:14 ` FabF
2004-07-09 11:24 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-10 9:44 ` FabF
[not found] ` <40EFC076.9050504@yahoo.com.au>
2004-07-10 10:57 ` rss recovery FabF
2004-07-10 12:03 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-13 13:12 ` FabF
2004-07-08 16:26 ` Autoregulate swappiness & inactivation Timothy Miller
2004-07-08 17:12 ` John Richard Moser
2004-07-08 18:37 ` Timothy Miller
2004-07-08 21:40 ` John Richard Moser
2004-07-09 7:44 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2004-07-08 16:24 ` [PATCH] Autotune swappiness Con Kolivas
2004-07-08 16:44 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-09 0:39 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-09 1:19 ` [ck] " Kerin Millar
2004-07-09 14:23 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-07-09 14:26 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-08 15:57 ` [ck] Re: 2.6.7-ck5 GSehp
2004-07-07 16:45 ` 2.6.7-ck5 John Richard Moser
2004-07-07 17:10 ` 2.6.7-ck5 Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-07-07 22:26 ` 2.6.7-ck5 Wes Janzen
2004-07-07 22:53 ` 2.6.7-ck5 Con Kolivas
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