From: Timothy Miller <miller@techsource.com>
To: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
Cc: "The Linux Audio Developers' Mailing List"
<linux-audio-dev@music.columbia.edu>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [announce] [patch] Voluntary Kernel Preemption Patch
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 21:25:57 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <40FDC625.9080804@techsource.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1090369957.841.14.camel@mindpipe>
Lee Revell wrote:
> There are still a few areas that need work, ioctl gives me problems, but
> the latest 2.6 kernels are quite good. If you look at the 'clean'
> version of the voluntary kernel preemption patch it is pretty small. My
> understanding is that the kernel is already preemptible anytime that a
> spin lock (including the BKL) is not held, and that the voluntary kernel
> preemption patch adds some scheduling points in places where it is safe
> to sleep, but preemption is disabled because we are holding the BKL, and
> that the number of these should approach zero as the kernel is improved
> anyway.
That's confusing to me. It was my understanding that the BKL is used to
completely lock down the kernel so that no other CPU can have a process
get into the kernel... something like how SMP was done under 2.0.
So, if you sleep during a BKL, wouldn't that imply that nothing else
would be allowed to enter the kernel until after the kernel thread that
took the lock wakes up and releases the lock?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-07-21 0:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 271+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-07-09 18:26 [announce] [patch] Voluntary Kernel Preemption Patch Ingo Molnar
2004-07-09 19:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-07-09 23:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-10 0:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-10 1:02 ` Dave Jones
2004-07-12 10:17 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-12 19:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-13 7:43 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-10 6:32 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-10 7:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-10 8:10 ` ismail dönmez
2004-07-10 8:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-19 10:36 ` [patch] voluntary-preempt 2.6.8-rc2-H4 Ingo Molnar
2004-07-20 1:38 ` Ramón Rey Vicente
2004-07-20 6:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-10 15:36 ` [announce] [patch] Voluntary Kernel Preemption Patch Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-10 12:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-10 15:12 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-10 15:14 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-10 15:18 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-11 7:07 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-07-11 7:09 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-11 7:16 ` [announce] [patch] " Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-07-11 9:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-11 9:29 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-10 16:18 ` [announce] [patch] " Con Kolivas
2004-07-11 6:47 ` [ck] " Ingo Molnar
2004-07-11 6:59 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-11 11:18 ` R. J. Wysocki
2004-07-11 7:09 ` [ck] Re: [announce] [patch] " Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-07-11 14:27 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-11 14:29 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-11 14:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-11 17:29 ` André Goddard Rosa
2004-07-11 17:49 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2004-07-11 21:20 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-11 21:25 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2004-07-11 20:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-12 8:23 ` Voluntary Preemption + concurent games Aivils
2004-07-12 9:51 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-12 10:45 ` Lenar Lõhmus
2004-07-12 11:52 ` Aivils
2004-07-12 13:35 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-12 14:15 ` [ck] Re: [announce] [patch] Voluntary Kernel Preemption Patch Chris Friesen
2004-07-12 14:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-10 15:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-09 21:13 ` Redeeman
2004-07-10 8:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-10 8:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-10 10:55 ` ismail dönmez
2004-07-10 11:26 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-10 12:01 ` ismail dönmez
2004-07-10 12:05 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-10 12:09 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-10 12:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-10 12:58 ` ismail dönmez
2004-07-10 13:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-10 14:45 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-10 14:57 ` ismail dönmez
2004-07-12 10:48 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-12 13:09 ` ismail dönmez
2004-07-12 13:14 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-09 21:36 ` Torrey Hoffman
2004-07-10 8:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-10 1:00 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-10 1:04 ` Dave Jones
2004-07-10 12:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-11 5:25 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-11 9:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-11 9:45 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-11 9:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-11 9:58 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-11 10:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-11 10:42 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-11 10:59 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-11 11:13 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-11 18:07 ` Mikulas Patocka
2004-07-12 7:08 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-07-19 10:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-11 23:12 ` Robert Love
2004-07-12 22:40 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-07-12 13:24 ` John Stoffel
2004-07-12 22:56 ` [linux-audio-dev] " Lee Revell
2004-07-12 23:31 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-12 23:58 ` Paul Davis
2004-07-13 0:06 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 0:21 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-13 1:01 ` [linux-audio-dev] Re: [announce] [patch] " Lee Revell
2004-07-13 7:49 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-13 8:12 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 0:01 ` Paul Davis
2004-07-13 0:08 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 16:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-13 18:42 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 21:29 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 21:45 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-14 8:51 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-14 9:36 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-14 10:48 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-14 14:52 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-14 16:29 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-14 10:26 ` Benno Senoner
2004-07-13 18:48 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 21:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-13 21:54 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 22:01 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-13 22:25 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 22:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-13 22:44 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 22:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-13 23:06 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 23:18 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-13 23:32 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-14 0:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-14 0:45 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-19 11:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02 22:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-02 22:20 ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-02 23:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02 23:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-13 7:58 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-13 0:17 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 0:46 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 2:52 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 3:59 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 7:57 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-19 10:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-19 11:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-20 5:38 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-20 6:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-20 6:59 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-20 7:11 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <200407202011.20558.musical_snake@gmx.de>
2004-07-20 19:56 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-20 23:49 ` Benno Senoner
2004-07-21 0:32 ` [linux-audio-dev] " Lee Revell
2004-07-21 1:25 ` Timothy Miller [this message]
2004-07-21 21:38 ` Another dumb question about " Timothy Miller
2004-07-24 0:25 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-25 20:19 ` Timothy Miller
2004-07-25 20:13 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-21 10:53 ` [linux-audio-dev] Re: [announce] [patch] " Florian Schmidt
2004-07-21 11:18 ` Thomas Charbonnel
2004-07-21 12:04 ` pci gfx card / jack xruns / pci latencies (was: Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [announce] [patch] Voluntary Kernel Preemption Patch) Florian Schmidt
2004-07-21 17:49 ` [linux-audio-dev] Re: [announce] [patch] Voluntary Kernel Preemption Patch Fernando Pablo Lopez-Lezcano
2004-07-22 22:25 ` Andrew McGregor
2004-07-22 23:16 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-07-21 14:27 ` Benno Senoner
2004-07-20 12:19 ` Jens Axboe
2004-07-20 21:32 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-24 4:07 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-24 5:46 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-24 6:33 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-24 6:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-24 22:49 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-24 23:30 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-24 11:27 ` max request size 1024KiB by default? Rudo Thomas
2004-07-24 22:58 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-26 19:29 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2004-07-27 5:15 ` Jens Axboe
2004-07-24 12:41 ` [linux-audio-dev] Re: [announce] [patch] Voluntary Kernel Preemption Patch Mark Lord
2004-07-24 4:58 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 8:31 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 8:43 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 8:53 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 9:00 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 9:21 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-13 9:25 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 9:33 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-13 9:44 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 9:23 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 9:29 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 20:37 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 22:32 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 8:07 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-13 22:40 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-07-13 23:47 ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-07-19 10:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-21 3:27 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-21 7:03 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-21 4:58 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-21 5:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-21 6:03 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-21 8:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-21 8:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-21 11:32 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-21 15:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 4:56 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-22 7:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 10:54 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-22 16:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 22:11 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-23 5:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-23 6:45 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-23 6:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-23 7:11 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-23 7:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-23 7:28 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-21 18:34 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-21 18:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-21 19:56 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-21 21:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 2:47 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-21 21:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 2:28 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-22 7:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 18:53 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-22 19:45 ` Bill Huey
2004-07-28 6:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-28 20:52 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-29 18:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-29 18:36 ` Bill Huey
2004-07-29 19:17 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-29 19:25 ` Bill Huey
2004-07-30 2:23 ` Eric St-Laurent
2004-07-29 20:26 ` Pavel Machek
2004-07-29 20:57 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-29 21:00 ` Pavel Machek
2004-07-29 21:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-21 22:52 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-21 18:32 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-21 20:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-21 18:30 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-21 18:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 2:32 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-22 9:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 18:36 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-22 19:11 ` Robert Love
2004-07-21 21:00 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-21 21:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-21 22:14 ` Bill Huey
2004-07-21 22:31 ` Bill Huey
2004-07-21 22:37 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-22 10:06 ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.8-rc2-H9 Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 16:00 ` scheduling while atomic (Re: voluntary-preempt-2.6.8-rc2-H9) Rudo Thomas
2004-07-22 16:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 17:24 ` voluntary-preempt I0: sluggish feel Rudo Thomas
2004-07-22 17:52 ` Matt Heler
2004-07-22 17:54 ` Rudo Thomas
2004-07-22 18:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 18:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 18:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 18:37 ` Rudo Thomas
2004-07-23 10:42 ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.8-rc2-I3 Ingo Molnar
2004-07-23 10:58 ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2004-07-23 11:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-23 11:28 ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.8-rc2-I4 Ingo Molnar
2004-07-24 0:16 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-23 11:42 ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.8-rc2-I3 Paolo Ciarrocchi
2004-07-23 12:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-23 15:36 ` Dang, Linh [CAR:2X23:EXCH]
2004-07-23 23:48 ` Thomas Charbonnel
2004-07-26 11:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-26 12:27 ` Thomas Charbonnel
2004-07-22 18:31 ` voluntary-preempt I0: sluggish feel Robert Love
2004-07-22 18:32 ` Rudo Thomas
2004-07-22 18:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 18:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-21 6:07 ` [linux-audio-dev] Re: [announce] [patch] Voluntary Kernel Preemption Patch Lee Revell
2004-07-21 10:14 ` Roger Luethi
2004-07-13 0:58 ` Jan Depner
2004-07-13 1:00 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 3:31 ` Florin Andrei
2004-07-13 6:31 ` Paul Winkler
2004-07-13 13:26 ` Benno Senoner
2004-07-13 14:50 ` Paul Davis
2004-07-13 19:45 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 22:17 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-07-16 4:50 ` Florin Andrei
2004-07-16 12:49 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-13 21:53 ` Timothy Miller
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2004-07-13 15:16 [linux-audio-dev] " Shane Shrybman
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