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From: Clemens Schwaighofer <cs@tequila.co.jp>
To: Tim Connors <tconnors+linuxkernel1090893567@astro.swin.edu.au>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	kernel@kolivas.org, Joel.Becker@oracle.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Autotune swappiness01
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:41:19 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4105CEDF.4040009@tequila.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <slrn-0.9.7.4-15175-21673-200407271159-tc@hexane.ssi.swin.edu.au>

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Tim Connors wrote:
| Clemens Schwaighofer <cs@tequila.co.jp> said on Tue, 27 Jul 2004
10:17:16 +0900:

| Depends on what you do. Do you compile kernels regularly? In
| particular, do you have to wait for them, or do you just let them sit
| in the background, and come back to them when you rememeber, since
| you've been busy doing real work for the past 5 hours? If you wait,
| then I guess you want high swapiness.

well this is a work box. I do coding, yes, but this is perl, php, etc,
mostly (99%) on remote machines. The big apps running here is mozilla,
openoffice, korganzier (yes I do the KDE bloat) and _a_ _lot_ of konsole
~ (kde terminals).

I want responsivness. I don't want to wait 10s to switch between virtual
desktops. I compile a kernel once in a while. Very rare actually,
because this is a work box and I don't reboot all the time (can't &
don't want). The last kernel change was 64d ago.

| For the rest of us who don't have to regularly read in hundreds of
| megs of disk, and don't need to use that hundreds of megs of disk over
| and over and over again (As far as I can see, this is just about
| everyone who's not a kernel developer or some big app developer[1]), I
| guess we get by just fine having smaller swapiness.

well the only thing that needs disk over and over again is this _crappy_
gentoo because it needs to compile everything. I really hate myself for
using it, because _this_ probably screws up _all_ the page cache, etc.

| [1] Maybe kde is bloated enough that you if want to start the equiv of
| an xterm all the time, maybe caching helps a lot there, but I make a
| point of using lean apps[2].

well, to be honest, I doubt it is so bloated anymore. I think gnome is
the better bloat of those two.

| [2] Sad when you consider xemacs lean, isn't it? ;)

well, if you call xemacs (the editor without an OS) lean ... *hmm* but I
am a vim man after all ;)

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-07-27  3:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-26  0:25 [PATCH][2.6.8-rc1-mm1] Autotune swappiness01 Con Kolivas
2004-07-26  0:36 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-26  0:43   ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-26  0:48     ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-26  1:01       ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-26  1:09         ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-26  8:52           ` R. J. Wysocki
2004-07-26  9:31             ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-26 10:34               ` R. J. Wysocki
2004-07-26 10:29                 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-26 10:54                   ` R. J. Wysocki
2004-07-26 11:03                     ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-26 11:13                       ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-26 11:17                         ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-26 11:47                           ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-26 13:53                             ` R. J. Wysocki
2004-07-26 18:45                               ` Adam Kropelin
2004-07-26 18:53                                 ` R. J. Wysocki
2004-07-26 17:55                     ` Gerrit Huizenga
2004-07-26 20:29     ` Joel Becker
2004-07-26 20:42       ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-26 22:58         ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-27  0:52           ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2004-07-27  1:09             ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-27  1:17               ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2004-07-27  2:03                 ` Tim Connors
2004-07-27  2:43                   ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-27  3:02                     ` Tim Connors
2004-07-27  3:43                       ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2004-07-27  3:47                       ` Joel Becker
2004-07-27 15:32                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-27  3:41                   ` Clemens Schwaighofer [this message]
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2004-07-26 14:52 Martin Knoblauch
2004-07-26 21:29 DaMouse

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