From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S266236AbUG0Dlm (ORCPT ); Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:41:42 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S266241AbUG0Dll (ORCPT ); Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:41:41 -0400 Received: from smtp3.cwidc.net ([154.33.63.113]:20359 "EHLO smtp3.cwidc.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S266236AbUG0Dlc (ORCPT ); Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:41:32 -0400 Message-ID: <4105CEDF.4040009@tequila.co.jp> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:41:19 +0900 From: Clemens Schwaighofer Organization: TEQUILA\ Japan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040724 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Connors CC: Andrew Morton , kernel@kolivas.org, Joel.Becker@oracle.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Autotune swappiness01 References: <20040725173652.274dcac6.akpm@osdl.org> <20040726202946.GD26075@ca-server1.us.oracle.com> <20040726134258.37531648.akpm@osdl.org> <4105A761.9090905@tequila.co.jp> <20040726180943.4c871e4f.akpm@osdl.org> <4105AD1C.2050507@tequila.co.jp> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.84.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Tim Connors wrote: | Clemens Schwaighofer said on Tue, 27 Jul 2004 10:17:16 +0900: | Depends on what you do. Do you compile kernels regularly? In | particular, do you have to wait for them, or do you just let them sit | in the background, and come back to them when you rememeber, since | you've been busy doing real work for the past 5 hours? If you wait, | then I guess you want high swapiness. well this is a work box. I do coding, yes, but this is perl, php, etc, mostly (99%) on remote machines. The big apps running here is mozilla, openoffice, korganzier (yes I do the KDE bloat) and _a_ _lot_ of konsole ~ (kde terminals). I want responsivness. I don't want to wait 10s to switch between virtual desktops. I compile a kernel once in a while. Very rare actually, because this is a work box and I don't reboot all the time (can't & don't want). The last kernel change was 64d ago. | For the rest of us who don't have to regularly read in hundreds of | megs of disk, and don't need to use that hundreds of megs of disk over | and over and over again (As far as I can see, this is just about | everyone who's not a kernel developer or some big app developer[1]), I | guess we get by just fine having smaller swapiness. well the only thing that needs disk over and over again is this _crappy_ gentoo because it needs to compile everything. I really hate myself for using it, because _this_ probably screws up _all_ the page cache, etc. | [1] Maybe kde is bloated enough that you if want to start the equiv of | an xterm all the time, maybe caching helps a lot there, but I make a | point of using lean apps[2]. well, to be honest, I doubt it is so bloated anymore. I think gnome is the better bloat of those two. | [2] Sad when you consider xemacs lean, isn't it? ;) well, if you call xemacs (the editor without an OS) lean ... *hmm* but I am a vim man after all ;) - -- Clemens Schwaighofer - IT Engineer & System Administration ========================================================== TEQUILA\Japan, 6-17-2 Ginza Chuo-ku, Tokyo 104-8167, JAPAN Tel: +81-(0)3-3545-7703 Fax: +81-(0)3-3545-7343 http://www.tequila.co.jp ========================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBBc7ejBz/yQjBxz8RAqYwAJoDCBWOxMRXAHHVelV+M9ObQjpsYQCg6a8n GIRF1+LjDZ+U4TCovnk+RcA= =K1Xc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----