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From: Avi Kivity <avi@exanet.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Deadlock during heavy write activity to userspace NFS server on local NFS mount
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 23:22:42 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4106B992.8000703@exanet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040726210229.GC21889@openzaurus.ucw.cz>

Pavel Machek wrote:

>>On heavy write activity, allocators wait synchronously for kswapd to
>>free some memory. But if kswapd is freeing memory via a userspace NFS
>>server, that server could be waiting for kswapd, and the system seizes
>>instantly.
>>
>>This patch (against RHEL 2.4.21-15EL, but should apply either 
>>literally
>>or conceptually to other kernels) allows a process to declare itself 
>>as
>>kswapd's little helper, and thus will not have to wait on kswapd.
>>    
>>
>
>Ok, but what if its memory runs out, anyway?
>
>  
>
Tough. What if kswapd's memory runs out?

A more complete solution would be to assign memory reserve levels below 
which a process starts allocating synchronously. For example, normal 
processes must have >20MB to make forward progress, kswapd wants >15MB 
and the NFS server needs >10MB. Some way would be needed to express the 
dependencies.

I think more and more people will hit this problem as filesystems become 
more complex due to clustering, and migrate to userspace where it can be 
more easily managed.

Avi

  reply	other threads:[~2004-07-27 20:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-26 13:11 [PATCH] Deadlock during heavy write activity to userspace NFS server on local NFS mount Avi Kivity
2004-07-26 21:02 ` Pavel Machek
2004-07-27 20:22   ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2004-07-27 20:34     ` Pavel Machek
2004-07-27 21:02       ` Avi Kivity
2004-07-28  1:29         ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-28  2:17           ` Trond Myklebust
2004-07-28  5:13             ` Avi Kivity
2004-07-28  5:11           ` Avi Kivity
2004-07-28  5:29             ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-28  7:05               ` Avi Kivity
2004-07-28  7:16                 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-28  7:45                   ` Avi Kivity
2004-07-28  9:05                     ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-28 10:11                       ` Avi Kivity
2004-07-28 10:30                         ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-28 11:48                           ` Avi Kivity
2004-07-29  8:29                             ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-29 12:19                               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-07-29 16:09                               ` Avi Kivity
2004-07-28 12:08       ` Mikulas Patocka
2004-07-28 12:18         ` Avi Kivity

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