public inbox for linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Peter Williams <pwil3058@bigpond.net.au>
To: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michal Kaczmarski <fallow@op.pl>,
	Shane Shrybman <shrybman@aei.ca>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] V-3.0 Single Priority Array O(1) CPU Scheduler Evaluation
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 11:36:59 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41103DBB.6090100@bigpond.net.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040804005034.GE2334@holomorphy.com>

William Lee Irwin III wrote:
> William Lee Irwin III wrote:
> 
>>>In such schemes, realtime tasks are considered separately from
>>>timesharing tasks. Finding a task to run or migrate proceeds with a
>>>circular search of the portion of the bitmap used for timesharing tasks
>>>after a linear search of that for RT tasks. The list to enqueue a
>>>timesharing task in is just an offset from the fencepost determined by
>>>priority. Dequeueing is supported with a tag for actual array position.
>>>I did this for aperiodic queue rotations, which differs from your SPA.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 10:37:57AM +1000, Peter Williams wrote:
> 
>>While pondering this I have stumbled on a problem that rules out using a 
>>rotating list for implementing promotion.  The problem is that one of 
>>the requirements is that once a SCHED_NORMAL task is promoted to the 
>>MAX_RT_PRIO slot it stays there (as far as promotion is concerned). 
>>With the rotating list this isn't guaranteed and, in fact, any tasks 
>>that are in the MAX_RT_PRIO slot when promotion occurs will actually be 
>>demoted to IDLE_PRIO - 1.
> 
> 
> Aperiodic rotations defer movement until MAX_RT_PRIO's slot is evacuated.

Unfortunately, to ensure no starvation, promotion has to continue even 
when there are tasks in MAX_RT_PRIO's slot.

> 
> 
> On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 10:37:57AM +1000, Peter Williams wrote:
> 
>>Promotion should be a rare event as it is unnecessary if there's less 
>>than two tasks on the runqueue and when there are more than one task on 
>>the runqueue the interval between promotions increases linearly with the 
>>number of runnable tasks.  It is also an O(1) operation albeit with a 
>>constant factor determined by the number of occupied SCHED_NORMAL 
>>priority slots.
> 
> 
> The asymptotics were in terms of SCHED_NORMAL priorities.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 10:37:57AM +1000, Peter Williams wrote:
> 
>>I will modify the code to take better advantage of the fact that 
>>promotion is not required when the number of runnable tasks is less than 
>>2 e.g. by resetting next_prom_due so that the first promotion after the 
>>number of runnable tasks exceeds 1 will only occur after a full 
>>promotion interval has expired.  At normal loads (and with sensible 
>>promotion interval settings i.e. greater than the time slice size) this 
>>should result in promotion never (or hardly ever) occurring and the 
>>overhead of do_promotions() will only have to be endured when it's 
>>absolutely necessary.
> 
> 
> The primary concern was that ticklessness etc. may require it to occur
> during context switches.

On a tickless system, I'd consider using a timer to control when 
do_promotions() gets called.  I imagine something similar will be 
necessary to manage time slices?

Peter
-- 
Peter Williams                                   pwil3058@bigpond.net.au

"Learning, n. The kind of ignorance distinguishing the studious."
  -- Ambrose Bierce


  reply	other threads:[~2004-08-04  1:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-02  6:31 [PATCH] V-3.0 Single Priority Array O(1) CPU Scheduler Evaluation Peter Williams
2004-08-02 13:42 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-03  0:33   ` Peter Williams
2004-08-03  2:03     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-03  3:39       ` Peter Williams
2004-08-03 10:49         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-04  0:37           ` Peter Williams
2004-08-04  0:50             ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-04  1:36               ` Peter Williams [this message]
2004-08-04  1:51                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-04  2:40                   ` Peter Williams
2004-08-04  7:05                     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-08-04  7:44                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-05  1:06                       ` Peter Williams
2004-08-05  2:00                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-05  2:12                           ` Peter Williams
     [not found] <2oEEn-197-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-08-02 13:27 ` Andi Kleen
2004-08-03  0:27   ` Peter Williams
2004-08-03  3:53     ` Andrew Morton
2004-08-03  4:38       ` Peter Williams
2004-08-03  6:51       ` Andi Kleen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-08-07  1:44 Peter Williams

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=41103DBB.6090100@bigpond.net.au \
    --to=pwil3058@bigpond.net.au \
    --cc=fallow@op.pl \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=shrybman@aei.ca \
    --cc=wli@holomorphy.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox