From: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortelnetworks.com>
To: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
inaky.perez-gonzalez@intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
robustmutexes@lists.osdl.org, rusty@rustcorp.com.au,
mingo@elte.hu, jamie@shareable.org
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH] FUSYN Realtime & robust mutexes for Linux, v2.3.1
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 10:02:05 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <41123DDD.5040607@nortelnetworks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4111E3B5.1070608@redhat.com>
Ulrich Drepper wrote:
> Andrew Morton wrote:
>
>
>>How large is the slowdown, and on what workloads?
>
>
> The fast path for all locking primitives etc in nptl today is entirely
> at userlevel. Normally just a single atomic operation with a dozen
> other instructions. With the fusyn stuff each and every locking
> operation needs a system call to register/unregister the thread as it
> locks/unlocks mutex/rwlocks/etc. Go figure how well this works. We are
> talking about making the fast path of the locking primitives
> two/three/four orders of magnitude more expensive. And this for
> absolutely no benefit for 99.999% of all the code which uses threads.
Just a small clarification. (Rusty already touched on this briefly, but I think
he made a mistake.)
If the arch has atomic compare-and-exchange, then the non-contended case is
entirely userspace and no syscall is needed. I don't think that the cmpxchg
need be 64-bit. From the OLS 2004 talk:
int vfulock_lock (&vfulock, flags, pid, &timeout) {
unsigned old = VFULOCK_UNLOCKED;
if (cmpxchg(vfulock,old,pid) != old) return 0;
return SYSCALL(ufulock_lock,3,vfulock,flags,to);
}
That looks like a 32-bit cmpxchg to me.
Also, Inaky reported general operation about 10% slower than NPTL, but said that
he wanted to fix that if possible.
Chris
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-08-05 14:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-08-04 9:13 [RFC/PATCH] FUSYN Realtime & robust mutexes for Linux, v2.3.1 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2004-08-05 6:21 ` Andrew Morton
2004-08-05 7:06 ` Ulrich Drepper
2004-08-05 7:17 ` Andrew Morton
2004-08-05 7:37 ` Ulrich Drepper
2004-08-05 7:40 ` Andrew Morton
2004-08-05 8:22 ` Ulrich Drepper
2004-08-05 10:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-08-05 11:48 ` Rusty Russell
2004-08-05 13:23 ` Linh Dang
2004-08-05 13:26 ` Linh Dang
2004-08-05 14:02 ` Chris Friesen [this message]
2004-08-05 10:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-08-05 10:59 ` Ingo Molnar
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-08-05 8:39 Eric Valette
2004-08-05 18:16 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2004-08-05 18:16 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2004-08-05 18:16 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2004-08-05 18:22 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2004-08-05 18:37 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2004-08-05 18:39 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2004-08-05 18:39 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
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