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From: Vladislav Bolkhovitin <vst@vlnb.net>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86 bitops.h commentary on instruction reordering
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 21:35:23 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4117B5DB.7060602@vlnb.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040809155009.GB6361@logos.cnet>

Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>>>Not really. x86 doesnt have such an instruction.
>>
>>But how then spin_lock() works? It guarantees memory sync between CPUs, 
>>doesn't it? Otherwise how can it prevent possible races with concurrent 
>>data modifications?
> 
> It makes use of the "lock" instruction to lock the bus before the "dec" instruction:
>                                                                                                                                                                                    
> #define spin_lock_string \
>         "\n1:\t" \
>         "lock ; decb %0\n\t" \
>         "js 2f\n" \
> 
> That way it prevent races wrt other CPUs. atomic accesses which need to modify 
> (atomic_inc, atomic_dec, etc) data also use the "lock" to prevent other CPUs 
> from reading the data. 
> 
> grep for "lock" in include/asm-i386/.
> 
> As hpa said, most x86 instructions (except SSE-related ones) are
> strictly ordered (except the cases Alan pointed, which were not known 
> to me).
> 
> Thats why there is no "sync"-like instruction on x86 (again, except SSE-related 
> ones).
> 
> This is just a simple and short explanation of how this works. It gets more complex
> you think about cache coherency between processors, etc. For more details 
> the best book probably is "UNIX Systems for Modern Architectures. 
> Symmetric Multiprocessing and Caching for Kernel Programming" - Curt Schimmel (which 
> has been suggested here over and over).

I know basically, how spinlocks work to provide ordering, my question 
was about the cache coherency. Thanks for the link to the book, I will 
try to find it.

Vlad

  reply	other threads:[~2004-08-09 17:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-05 20:06 [PATCH] x86 bitops.h commentary on instruction reordering Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-06 14:17 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2004-08-06 14:33   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-06 15:36     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2004-08-06 15:53       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-06 16:52         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2004-08-06 17:09           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-06 22:33             ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-08-07  1:01               ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-08-07 22:16               ` Alan Cox
2004-08-09 15:14             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2004-08-09 15:50               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-09 17:35                 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin [this message]
     [not found]                   ` <20040809183437.GD6361@logos.cnet>
2004-08-09 20:12                     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2004-08-09 21:21                       ` Alan Cox
2004-08-10 12:28                         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2004-08-09 11:58         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
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     [not found]                     ` <2roWw-40d-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-08-09 21:23                       ` Andi Kleen
2004-08-10 12:26                         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin

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