From: Vladislav Bolkhovitin <vst@vlnb.net>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86 bitops.h commentary on instruction reordering
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 21:35:23 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4117B5DB.7060602@vlnb.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040809155009.GB6361@logos.cnet>
Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>>>Not really. x86 doesnt have such an instruction.
>>
>>But how then spin_lock() works? It guarantees memory sync between CPUs,
>>doesn't it? Otherwise how can it prevent possible races with concurrent
>>data modifications?
>
> It makes use of the "lock" instruction to lock the bus before the "dec" instruction:
>
> #define spin_lock_string \
> "\n1:\t" \
> "lock ; decb %0\n\t" \
> "js 2f\n" \
>
> That way it prevent races wrt other CPUs. atomic accesses which need to modify
> (atomic_inc, atomic_dec, etc) data also use the "lock" to prevent other CPUs
> from reading the data.
>
> grep for "lock" in include/asm-i386/.
>
> As hpa said, most x86 instructions (except SSE-related ones) are
> strictly ordered (except the cases Alan pointed, which were not known
> to me).
>
> Thats why there is no "sync"-like instruction on x86 (again, except SSE-related
> ones).
>
> This is just a simple and short explanation of how this works. It gets more complex
> you think about cache coherency between processors, etc. For more details
> the best book probably is "UNIX Systems for Modern Architectures.
> Symmetric Multiprocessing and Caching for Kernel Programming" - Curt Schimmel (which
> has been suggested here over and over).
I know basically, how spinlocks work to provide ordering, my question
was about the cache coherency. Thanks for the link to the book, I will
try to find it.
Vlad
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-08-09 17:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-08-05 20:06 [PATCH] x86 bitops.h commentary on instruction reordering Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-06 14:17 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2004-08-06 14:33 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-06 15:36 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2004-08-06 15:53 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-06 16:52 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2004-08-06 17:09 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-06 22:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-08-07 1:01 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-08-07 22:16 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-09 15:14 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2004-08-09 15:50 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-09 17:35 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin [this message]
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2004-08-09 20:12 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2004-08-09 21:21 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-10 12:28 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2004-08-09 11:58 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
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2004-08-09 21:23 ` Andi Kleen
2004-08-10 12:26 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
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