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From: Vladislav Bolkhovitin <vst@vlnb.net>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86 bitops.h commentary on instruction reordering
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 00:12:16 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4117DAA0.1020601@vlnb.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040809183437.GD6361@logos.cnet>

Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> Vladislav, 
> 
> There is no cache coherency issues on x86, it handles the cache coherency
> on hardware. 

Well, Marcelo, sorry if I'm getting too annoying, but we had a race with 
cache coherency during SCST (SCSI target mid-level) development. We 
discovered that on P4 Xeon after atomic_set() there is very small 
window, when atomic_read() on another CPUs returns the old value. We had 
to rewrite the code without using atomic_set(). Isn't it cache coherency 
issue?

And, BTW, returning to the original topic, would it be better to make 
set_bit() and friends guarantee not to be reordered on all 
architectures, instead of just add the comment. Otherwise, what is the 
difference with versions with `__` prefix (__set_bit(), for example)? 
Just adding the comments will lead to creating different functions with 
gurantees by everyone who need it in all over the kernel. Is it the 
right thing? In some places in SCST we heavy rely on non-ordering 
guarantees.

Thanks,
Vlad

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-08-09 20:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-05 20:06 [PATCH] x86 bitops.h commentary on instruction reordering Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-06 14:17 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2004-08-06 14:33   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-06 15:36     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2004-08-06 15:53       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-06 16:52         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2004-08-06 17:09           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-06 22:33             ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-08-07  1:01               ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-08-07 22:16               ` Alan Cox
2004-08-09 15:14             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2004-08-09 15:50               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-09 17:35                 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
     [not found]                   ` <20040809183437.GD6361@logos.cnet>
2004-08-09 20:12                     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin [this message]
2004-08-09 21:21                       ` Alan Cox
2004-08-10 12:28                         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2004-08-09 11:58         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
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     [not found]                     ` <2roWw-40d-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-08-09 21:23                       ` Andi Kleen
2004-08-10 12:26                         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin

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