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From: Karim Yaghmour <karim@opersys.com>
To: Miles Lane <miles.lane@comcast.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Thomas Zanussi <trz@us.ibm.com>,
	Richard J Moore <richardj_moore@uk.ibm.com>,
	Robert Wisniewski <bob@watson.ibm.com>,
	Michel Dagenais <michel.dagenais@polymtl.ca>
Subject: Re: DTrace-like analysis possible with future Linux kernels?
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 19:01:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4125312F.7020108@opersys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200408191822.48297.miles.lane@comcast.net>


Miles Lane wrote:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/07/08/dtrace_user_take/:
> 
> "Sun sees DTrace as a big advantage for Solaris over other versions of Unix 
> and Linux."

We've been pushing for the inclusion of the Linux Trace Toolkit in the kernel
for the past 5 years. As of late, it seems that the pending argument against
its inclusion is: How is this useful to end users? In answer to that, I had
already posted the same pointer as above:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=108938594031379&w=2

Since then, I've had the chance to discuss this matter at the Kernel Summit,
and again I was told that this was a sales problem (i.e. it must be
demonstrated that this is actually useful to users.) So, as the developers
of the Linux Trace Toolkit, it would help us a lot if you could explain to
this list why the sort of functionality provided by DTrace is something you
would personally find useful.

Thanks,

Karim
-- 
Author, Speaker, Developer, Consultant
Pushing Embedded and Real-Time Linux Systems Beyond the Limits
http://www.opersys.com || karim@opersys.com || 1-866-677-4546


  reply	other threads:[~2004-08-19 23:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-19 22:22 DTrace-like analysis possible with future Linux kernels? Miles Lane
2004-08-19 23:01 ` Karim Yaghmour [this message]
2004-08-19 23:23 ` Julien Oster
2004-08-19 22:33   ` Alan Cox
2004-08-20 10:08     ` Alex Bennee
2004-08-20 11:21       ` Robert Schwebel
2004-08-20  0:23   ` Florian Weimer
2004-08-20 13:34     ` Alexander Nyberg
2004-08-20 13:46       ` Florian Weimer
2004-08-20 16:46         ` David S. Miller
2004-08-21  6:03   ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2004-08-21  6:12     ` David S. Miller
2004-08-21  6:22       ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2004-08-21 12:12     ` Julien Oster
2004-08-21 13:27       ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2004-08-21 21:49       ` Bryan Cantrill
2004-08-23 23:08         ` Christoph Halder
2004-08-22 11:35     ` Alan Cox
2004-08-22 18:27       ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2004-08-22 18:46         ` Alan Cox
2004-08-23 17:34           ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2004-08-22 23:03         ` John Levon
2004-08-23 19:48       ` Robert Milkowski
2004-08-24  0:39         ` David S. Miller
2004-08-28 19:16         ` Alan Cox
2004-08-29  0:14           ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2004-08-29  5:30             ` David S. Miller
2004-08-29 10:45               ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2004-08-29 17:46                 ` David S. Miller
2004-08-29 10:53               ` Robert Milkowski
2004-08-29 10:29           ` Robert Milkowski
2004-08-31 20:16   ` Timothy Miller
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2004-08-21 15:01                   ` PATCH: cdrecord: avoiding scsi device numbering for ide devices Pascal Schmidt
2004-08-21 15:57                     ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-22 11:56                       ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-22 13:13                         ` Pascal Schmidt
2004-08-22 16:00                           ` Christer Weinigel
2004-08-22 16:32                             ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-22 17:18                               ` Christer Weinigel
2004-08-22 19:22                                 ` DTrace-like analysis possible with future Linux kernels? Joerg Schilling
2004-08-22 19:26                             ` PATCH: cdrecord: avoiding scsi device numbering for ide devices Tonnerre
2004-08-22 20:14                               ` DTrace-like analysis possible with future Linux kernels? Joerg Schilling
2004-08-22 20:33                                 ` Tonnerre
2004-08-22 20:38                                   ` Alan Cox
2004-08-22 20:43                                   ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-22 21:37                                     ` Christer Weinigel
2004-08-23 11:44                                       ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-23 17:40                                 ` Horst von Brand
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2004-08-23 18:19           ` Andi Kleen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-08-24  4:14 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-28 19:15 ` Alan Cox
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2004-08-24 13:04 ` Pascal Schmidt
2004-08-24 13:07   ` Joerg Schilling

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