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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	Pete Zaitcev <zaitcev@redhat.com>,
	arjanv@redhat.com, alan@redhat.com, greg@kroah.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, riel@redhat.com, sct@redhat.com
Subject: Re: PF_MEMALLOC in 2.6
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 18:06:41 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4125B111.2040308@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200408200956.50972.oliver@neukum.org>

Oliver Neukum wrote:
> Am Freitag, 20. August 2004 04:37 schrieb Nick Piggin:
> 
>>So if this thing allocates memory on behalf of a read request, then
>>it is basically a bug. In practice you could probably get away with
>>servicing all writes with PF_MEMALLOC, however that could still lead
>>to situations where it consumes all your low memory on behalf of
>>highmem IO (though perhaps this won't deadlock if that memory is
>>going to be released as a matter of course?)
>>
>>Another thing, having it always use PF_MEMALLOC means it can easily
>>wipe out the GFP_ATOMIC reserve.
>>
>>So I'd say try to find a way to only use PF_MEMALLOC on behalf of
>>a PF_MEMALLOC thread or use a mempool or something.
> 
> 
> Then the SCSI layer should pass down the flag.
> 

It would be ideal from the memory allocator's point of view to do it
on a per-request basis like that.

When the rubber hits the road, I think it is probably going to be very
troublesome to do it right that way. For example, what happens when
your usb-thingy-thread blocks on a memory allocation while handling a
read request, then the system gets low on memory and someone tries to
free some by submitting a write request to the USB device?

I don't know anything about how the usb thread works so I'm not sure.

The mempool model seems to work well for requests in the block layer -
making a completely uneducated guess I'd say that could be a good
option to investigate.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-08-20  8:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-19  6:55 PF_MEMALLOC in 2.6 Pete Zaitcev
2004-08-19  6:59 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-19  8:46 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-08-19  8:59 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-08-19 12:41 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-08-19 18:25   ` Oliver Neukum
2004-08-20  2:37     ` Nick Piggin
2004-08-20  7:56       ` Oliver Neukum
2004-08-20  8:06         ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2004-08-20  8:40           ` Pete Zaitcev
2004-08-20 14:50             ` Oliver Neukum
2004-08-20 15:02               ` Alan Cox
2004-08-20 16:04                 ` Rik van Riel
2004-08-20 16:06                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-08-20 16:10                     ` Alan Cox
2004-08-20 16:14                       ` Rik van Riel
2004-08-21  2:03                 ` Nick Piggin
2004-08-20  8:52           ` Oliver Neukum
2004-08-20  9:06             ` Nick Piggin
2004-08-26 21:16             ` Zephaniah E. Hull
2004-08-26 22:04               ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                 ` <20040827032554.GB30820@babylon.d2dc.net>
2004-08-27  9:15                   ` Oliver Neukum
2004-08-26 23:41               ` Mikulas Patocka
2004-08-20 10:31   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-08-20 15:34     ` Oliver Neukum

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