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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	Pete Zaitcev <zaitcev@redhat.com>,
	arjanv@redhat.com, alan@redhat.com, greg@kroah.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, riel@redhat.com, sct@redhat.com
Subject: Re: PF_MEMALLOC in 2.6
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 19:06:23 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4125BF0F.6080803@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200408201052.51178.oliver@neukum.org>

Oliver Neukum wrote:
> Am Freitag, 20. August 2004 10:06 schrieb Nick Piggin:
> 
>>>>So I'd say try to find a way to only use PF_MEMALLOC on behalf of
>>>>a PF_MEMALLOC thread or use a mempool or something.
>>>
>>>
>>>Then the SCSI layer should pass down the flag.
>>>
>>
>>It would be ideal from the memory allocator's point of view to do it
>>on a per-request basis like that.
>>
>>When the rubber hits the road, I think it is probably going to be very
>>troublesome to do it right that way. For example, what happens when
>>your usb-thingy-thread blocks on a memory allocation while handling a
>>read request, then the system gets low on memory and someone tries to
>>free some by submitting a write request to the USB device?
> 
> 
> The write request will have to wait. Storage cannot do concurrent IO.
> But all memory allocated in the read request will be GFP_NOIO or
> GFP_ATOMIC so the conclusion of the memory allocation should not
> wait for IO. Either it fails and we report that to the SCSI layer or it
> is completed and the write serviced in turn.
> At least that's the intent.
> 

In that case, having the SCSI layer pass down the flag may be a viable
option.

Just FYI, non atomic allocations need to be __GFP_NORETRY otherwise they
won't fail (unless order >= 3). I suspect this detail is fairly important.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-08-20  9:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-19  6:55 PF_MEMALLOC in 2.6 Pete Zaitcev
2004-08-19  6:59 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-19  8:46 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-08-19  8:59 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-08-19 12:41 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-08-19 18:25   ` Oliver Neukum
2004-08-20  2:37     ` Nick Piggin
2004-08-20  7:56       ` Oliver Neukum
2004-08-20  8:06         ` Nick Piggin
2004-08-20  8:40           ` Pete Zaitcev
2004-08-20 14:50             ` Oliver Neukum
2004-08-20 15:02               ` Alan Cox
2004-08-20 16:04                 ` Rik van Riel
2004-08-20 16:06                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-08-20 16:10                     ` Alan Cox
2004-08-20 16:14                       ` Rik van Riel
2004-08-21  2:03                 ` Nick Piggin
2004-08-20  8:52           ` Oliver Neukum
2004-08-20  9:06             ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2004-08-26 21:16             ` Zephaniah E. Hull
2004-08-26 22:04               ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                 ` <20040827032554.GB30820@babylon.d2dc.net>
2004-08-27  9:15                   ` Oliver Neukum
2004-08-26 23:41               ` Mikulas Patocka
2004-08-20 10:31   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-08-20 15:34     ` Oliver Neukum

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