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From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
	riel@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	reiserfs-dev@namesys.com, Vladimir Demidov <demidov@namesys.com>
Subject: Re: 2.6.8.1-mm2 - reiser4
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 23:24:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4126EA8F.6050807@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040820163426.2c6d4cb8.akpm@osdl.org>

Andrew Morton wrote:

>Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org> wrote:
>  
>
>>    
>>
>>
>
>It's my understanding that sys_reiser4() is basically defunct
>
I would say unfinished and in need of a code review by me before anyone 
starts using it, instead of defunct.  There is no good reason for it to 
be sent to Andrew as a patch file, and the guy responsible is on 
vacation.  What it should be in as is an experimental do not touch 
config option turned off by default.

sys_reiser4 is needed for these purposes:

* to eliminate the (otherwise valid) argument that it is more 
performance efficient for attributes to be accessed via an API that is 
different from files, by allowing multiple files to be accessed in one 
system call

* to bundle multiple filesystem operations into one atomic write

* to prepare the groundwork for the semantic enhancements described in 
www.namesys.com/whitepaper.html

* to define a standard interface that users will find uniform across all 
apps for this functionality

* to allow VFS to remain undisturbed in the eyes of legacy apps while 
semantic enhancements go into the filesystem namespace in a form that is 
less crippled by compatibility issues.

Now that the core reiser4 functionality is stable, the lead programmers 
and I can spare some time to review sys_reiser4 and the compression 
plugin (also not yet ready for prime time).  This will take us 6-12 
weeks I would guess, as Digeo is keeping us 50% busy with work that 
earns our paychecks at the moment, darpa is also keeping me busy with 
www.namesys.com/blackbox.html, and I expect there will be a few bugs 
found in the core code over the next few months also.

> at this point.
>
>It will probably be revived at some time in the future but we'd be best
>off crossing that bridge when we arrive at it, and ignoring the syscall
>part of the code at this time.
>
>For review purposes it would be better if the syscall code and all the
>namesys debug support code simply weren't present in the patch.  But one
>can sympathise with the need to keep it there for the time being.  Please
>just read around it.
>
>
>  
>


  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-08-21  6:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-19  8:42 2.6.8.1-mm2 Andrew Morton
2004-08-19  9:10 ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Ryan Cumming
2004-08-19  9:35   ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Chris Wedgwood
2004-08-23 21:25   ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Adrian Bunk
2004-08-25 18:32     ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Bill Davidsen
2004-08-19  9:12 ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Dipankar Sarma
2004-08-19 11:36 ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Gene Heskett
2004-08-19 12:29 ` [PATCH] 2.6.8.1-mm2 --- UML build fixes Chris Wedgwood
2004-08-19 20:55   ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-08-19 21:19     ` Jeff Dike
2004-08-19 22:32       ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-08-19 14:43 ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Michael Geithe
2004-08-19 14:52 ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 John Cherry
2004-08-19 14:29   ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Alan Cox
2004-08-20  7:06   ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Hans Reiser
2004-08-20  7:16     ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Andrew Morton
2004-08-20  7:37       ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Hans Reiser
2004-08-20 13:53         ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Alex Zarochentsev
2004-08-20 18:05           ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Hans Reiser
     [not found] ` <200408191245.46726.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
     [not found]   ` <20040819182752.GA3024@viasys.com>
2004-08-19 19:17     ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Gene Heskett
2004-08-20  1:51       ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Gene Heskett
2004-08-20  0:50 ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-20  1:08 ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Nathan Lynch
2004-08-20  1:16   ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Andrew Morton
2004-08-20  7:40     ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Rusty Russell
2004-08-20  8:14       ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2004-08-20  8:29         ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2004-08-20  8:59           ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2004-08-20  9:03             ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2004-08-21  7:51         ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Rusty Russell
2004-08-20  8:33       ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2004-08-20 21:35         ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Andrew Morton
2004-08-20 22:12           ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Nathan Lynch
2004-08-20  6:17 ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2004-08-20  6:59   ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Paul Mackerras
2004-08-20  8:21 ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 ismail dönmez
2004-08-20 22:43 ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Rik van Riel
2004-08-20 23:05   ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 - reiser4 Rik van Riel
2004-08-20 23:15     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-20 23:20     ` Anton Blanchard
2004-08-20 23:34       ` Andrew Morton
2004-08-21  0:12         ` Rik van Riel
2004-08-21  6:24         ` Hans Reiser [this message]
2004-08-21  0:15     ` Rik van Riel
2004-08-21  8:57       ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-21  7:30   ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Hans Reiser
2004-08-22 21:32   ` 2.6.8.1-mm2 Alex Zarochentsev

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