From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S267999AbUHZIsh (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Aug 2004 04:48:37 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S268019AbUHZIpH (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Aug 2004 04:45:07 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.198.35]:55174 "EHLO rwcrmhc11.comcast.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S267901AbUHZIlc (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Aug 2004 04:41:32 -0400 Message-ID: <412DA23C.7090702@namesys.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 01:41:32 -0700 From: Hans Reiser User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jamie Lokier CC: Nicholas Miell , Wichert Akkerman , Jeremy Allison , Andrew Morton , Spam , torvalds@osdl.org, hch@lst.de, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, flx@namesys.com, reiserfs-list@namesys.com Subject: Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4 References: <20040824202521.GA26705@lst.de> <412CEE38.1080707@namesys.com> <20040825152805.45a1ce64.akpm@osdl.org> <112698263.20040826005146@tnonline.net> <1453698131.20040826011935@tnonline.net> <20040825163225.4441cfdd.akpm@osdl.org> <20040825233739.GP10907@legion.cup.hp.com> <20040825234629.GF2612@wiggy.net> <1093480940.2748.35.camel@entropy> <20040826010355.GB24731@mail.shareable.org> In-Reply-To: <20040826010355.GB24731@mail.shareable.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.85.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Jamie Lokier wrote: >Nicholas Miell wrote: > > >>Anything that currently stores a file's metadata in another file really >>wants this right now. Things like image thumbnails, document summaries, >>digital signatures, etc. >> >> > >Additionally, all of those things you describe should be deleted if >the file is modified -- to indicate that they're no longer valid and >should be regenerated if needed. > >Whereas there are some other kinds of metadata which should not be >deleted if the file is modified. > >-- Jamie > > > > Yes, I agree. Actually we plan to have a whole link taxonomy, and one expected feature is that some links don't count towards the refcount needed to keep an object in existence (For instance, the links between key words and text documents, you don't want to have to explicitly unlink every keyword in order to delete a document).