From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S267986AbUHZIzN (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Aug 2004 04:55:13 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S267976AbUHZIth (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Aug 2004 04:49:37 -0400 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.198.35]:45704 "EHLO rwcrmhc11.comcast.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S267927AbUHZIna (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Aug 2004 04:43:30 -0400 Message-ID: <412DA2B4.6030709@namesys.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 01:43:32 -0700 From: Hans Reiser User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Linus Torvalds CC: Christoph Hellwig , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alexander Lyamin aka FLX , ReiserFS List Subject: Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4 References: <20040824202521.GA26705@lst.de> <412CEE38.1080707@namesys.com> <20040825200859.GA16345@lst.de> <20040825201929.GA16855@lst.de> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.85.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Linus Torvalds wrote: >On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > >>Over the last at least five years we've taken as much as possible >>semantics out of the filesystems and into the VFS layer, thus having >>a separation between the semantical layer (VFS) and the low level >>filesystem. Your attributes are absoultely a VFS thing and as such >>should not happen at the filesystem layer, and no, that doesn't mean >>they're bad per se, I just think they are a rather bad fit for Linux. >> >> > >Now this I agree with, in the sense that I think that if we want to >support this, it should be supported at a VFS layer. > >On the other hand, I think doing it inside the filesystem with ugly hacks > > what is ugly? ;-/ >is an acceptable way to prototype the idea before it's been proven to >really be workable. Maybe it has more problems with legacy apps than we'd >expect.. > > Linus > > > >