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To: Bernd Petrovitsch <bernd@firmix.at>
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Subject: Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4
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Bernd Petrovitsch wrote:

>On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 13:43 +0200, Spam wrote:
>  
>
>>>Previously Spam wrote:
>>>      
>>>
>>>>  How  so?  The whole idea is that the underlaying OS that handles the
>>>>  copying  should  also  know  to  copy  everything, otherwise you can
>>>>  implement  everything  into  applications  and  just  skip the whole
>>>>  filesystem part.
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>UNIX doesn't have a copy systemcall, applications copy the data
>>>manually.
>>>      
>>>
>>  Oh, this is very unfortunate and should be a bigger issue to fix.
>>    
>>
>
>Then you have to rewrite POSIX und SuSv3.
>
>	Bernd
>  
>
Spam is right.  Posix is a standard, not a vision, and the future is 
always a vision not a standard.