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From: David Ford <david+challenge-response@blue-labs.org>
To: Kenneth Lavrsen <kenneth@lavrsen.dk>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: Summarizing the PWC driver questions/answers
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 16:30:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <412F99CE.2070906@blue-labs.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20040827215445.01c4ddb0@inet.uni2.dk>

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I'm going to be short and simple.

You're making a huge fuss over this.  You're making wild claims about 
being forced to throw away $2000 worth of cameras, the next great thing 
that Linus will toss out of the kernel, companies being hurt, and 10,000 
or more people being put out.

Here are a few points to consider Kenneth;

- Maintain the PWC support yourself
- Stay with the last kernel that supported PWC
- Maintain a patch that puts PWC support into the kernel
- Since the NDA has long since expired, why not investigate using the 
whole of the code?

I would also consider the ramifications of a business model that uses 
bleeding edge releases of kernels for their customers.  You're so upset 
and maddened by what has happened, that you've lost focus on what is 
going on.

The hook wasn't right.  It goes against policy of the kernel.  Putting 
off dealing with it is a slippery slope.

The reaction from the PWC camp seems to be wholly heated and with little 
logical discussion.  Before you turn your flamethrower on me, I also 
have two cameras.  Doing things the Right Way is better, I really don't 
want to be moving the lines every time something doesn't suit me perfectly.

-david
p.s. If you feel like throwing away two grand worth of cameras, feel 
free to ship them to me.  I'm sure my trashcan would enjoy the use of them.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-08-27 20:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-27 19:54 Summarizing the PWC driver questions/answers Kenneth Lavrsen
2004-08-27 20:14 ` [linux-usb-devel] " David Brownell
2004-08-27 20:22 ` David S. Miller
2004-08-27 20:30 ` David Ford [this message]
2004-08-27 21:26   ` Wouter Van Hemel
2004-08-27 22:07     ` [OT] " David Ford
2004-08-27 20:32 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-08-27 21:25 ` Jesper Juhl
     [not found]   ` <Pine.LNX.4.61.0408272259450.2771@dragon.hygekrogen.localho st>
2004-08-27 22:08     ` Kenneth Lavrsen
2004-08-27 23:01       ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2004-08-27 23:13       ` [linux-usb-devel] " Oliver Neukum
2004-08-29 13:40         ` Alan Cox
2004-08-30  9:14           ` Craig Milo Rogers
2004-08-31  5:04           ` asterix the gual
2004-08-28  0:22       ` Paul Jakma
2004-08-28 15:55         ` [linux-usb-devel] " michel Xhaard
2004-08-30 12:04 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-08-28 21:07 linux
2004-08-28 22:06 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-08-27 16:26 Greg KH
2004-08-27 16:58 ` David Woodhouse
2004-08-27 18:26   ` Wouter Van Hemel
2004-08-27 19:05     ` Ian Romanick
2004-08-27 20:36       ` Wouter Van Hemel
2004-08-27 16:58 ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-08-27 17:54 ` Roman Zippel
2004-08-30 17:31 ` Brian Litzinger
2004-08-30 18:24   ` Jeff Kinz
2004-08-30 19:28   ` viro
2004-08-30 20:11   ` Kenneth Lavrsen

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