From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261610AbUH0W2d (ORCPT ); Fri, 27 Aug 2004 18:28:33 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264503AbUH0W1s (ORCPT ); Fri, 27 Aug 2004 18:27:48 -0400 Received: from parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk ([195.92.249.252]:34970 "EHLO www.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264389AbUH0WW0 (ORCPT ); Fri, 27 Aug 2004 18:22:26 -0400 Message-ID: <412FB418.1030508@pobox.com> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 18:22:16 -0400 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Linus Torvalds CC: Anton Altaparmakov , Xavier Bestel , Christoph Hellwig , Craig Milo Rogers , Kernel Mailing List , webcam@smcc.demon.nl Subject: Re: Termination of the Philips Webcam Driver (pwc) References: <20040826233244.GA1284@isi.edu> <20040827004757.A26095@infradead.org> <20040827094346.B29407@infradead.org> <1093628254.15313.14.camel@gonzales> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Linus Torvalds wrote: > Firmware on a device is logically equivalent to the kernel running on > another machine entirely. Yup. In that fact's what a lot of modern RAID firmwares are, an RTOS running on a generic CPU. Some NIC firmwares too. Jeff