From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S269030AbUIABQJ (ORCPT ); Tue, 31 Aug 2004 21:16:09 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S268993AbUIABQD (ORCPT ); Tue, 31 Aug 2004 21:16:03 -0400 Received: from 69-18-3-179.lisco.net ([69.18.3.179]:26273 "EHLO slaphack.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S268882AbUIABOi (ORCPT ); Tue, 31 Aug 2004 21:14:38 -0400 Message-ID: <41352279.7020307@slaphack.com> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 20:14:33 -0500 From: David Masover User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20040813) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Horst von Brand CC: Pavel Machek , Jamie Lokier , Chris Wedgwood , viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk, Linus Torvalds , Christoph Hellwig , Hans Reiser , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alexander Lyamin aka FLX , ReiserFS List Subject: Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4 References: <200408311931.i7VJV8kt028102@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> In-Reply-To: <200408311931.i7VJV8kt028102@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.85.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Horst von Brand wrote: | Pavel Machek said: | |>David Masover said: | | | [...] [...] | You do need extra tools anyway, placing them in the kernel is cheating (and | absolutely pointless, IMHO). Repeat after me: plugins in kernel does NOT equal tools in kernel. It's not hard to, for instance, imagine a generic plugin for archive manipulation which talks to a userspace daemon/library. The kernel doesn't know anything other than (maybe) a list of extensions that are archives. All else is handled in userspace -- the idea that "this is a zipfile" and "zipfiles can be extracted with the 'zip' command" are all in userspace. It's not about the kernel, it's about the interface. And see my other mail: cat foo.zip/README less foo.zip/contents/bar.c is a lot easier than lynx http://google.com/search?q=zip emerge zip man zip unzip foo.zip cat bar.c which already assumes quite a lot of expertise. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQIVAwUBQTUieXgHNmZLgCUhAQLj8Q//VEuRWg9RB/PVg/M1t36SraKIRdbrgGq6 0DYLZwwVWkfz+UKGhUkACNGQzhHG3ySn/lRjqXCsJhzMOzfgmte2CwgGxunHYqdp W69OSZ1vv0ZLpdpzEkVdMfRhhg8RBL54Ewj6fQu7G1ZzJ0J0HUFCEZIsVoL4zJfk +GFl4M+vvc+152HipEDsvrrPasc0dSxmryyzPbyABrfPRi3l2E3Okfewn/4MCC1E H/L04nmvJQ2OSZYu1eSMSpnLrgQdZJbYefRuSinpqfKhjpwQXjj2rnfcPm+xc3hh FDMlAUPA/DAlthTuhxd9+8iDPEARY57/FAMFTalYVhBEv0NWieMMn9V6R8BbnhZW 8y9EWu0Nvoowg9qElkVjWEt5M1Rbeuq4TDviyVyPYg/KcTKDGpjLuyQQbWv6hMVM WAx6THtRK8Ji/XLCj4Kh6qDOEYP1nuwqLYSWv13BtNAJ3bVeKryOJ4Er4AmuJomA uydBPQVsrtzTNmk7Eul2ZjrxXdESpUnUIAbu7H1Gbn51uP4rQTdlXkdPTv6s/wvG OSOMWKs28GBFsG3+IJLnoN2wxrffpgTBEAaPwbh9TRFKLIH+pkCFSx2cIkTj93nr RjETFObjYdJGhGygrq0xOmN5e7iprdxhxd3/+fvjQxnZGxXT3fZLUwhVX9/zhaXG cxau2Onr3jc= =MrR9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----