From: George Anzinger <george@mvista.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
tim@physik3.uni-rostock.de, albert@users.sourceforge.net,
Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de,
Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
linux@dominikbrodowski.de, David Mosberger <davidm@hpl.hp.com>,
paulus@samba.org, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com, jimix@us.ibm.com,
keith maanthey <kmannth@us.ibm.com>, greg kh <greg@kroah.com>,
Patricia Gaughen <gone@us.ibm.com>,
Chris McDermott <lcm@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] New Time of day proposal (updated 9/2/04)
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 11:24:02 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <413DFCC2.7080405@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0409070908290.8484@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Sep 2004, Andi Kleen wrote:
>
>
>>On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 01:11:58PM -0700, john stultz wrote:
>>
>>>The timeofday_hook (should be timeofday_interrupt_hook, my bad) is
>>>called by the semi-periodic-irregular-interval(also known as "timer")
>>>interrupt. Its what does the housekeeping for all the timeofday code so
>>>we don't run into a counter overflow.
>>>
>>>monotonic_clock() is an accessor that returns the amount of time that
>>>has been accumulated since boot in nanoseconds.
>>
>>Ok, but you need different low level drivers for those. The TSC is not
>>stable enough as a long term time source, but it is best&fastest for
>>the offset calculation between timer interrupts.
>
>
> I thought the NTP daemon etc would even that out? ITC (TSC on IA64) is
> used by default on IA64 for all time keeping purposes. The CPU has on chip
> support for timer interrupt generation.
Yes, and it is designed (read the "rock" is carefully choosen) for time keeping.
On the x86 the "rock" drives the pm timer and the PIT, but a somewhat less
stable "rock" drives the TSC.
Also, we don't "know" what rate the TSC is actully clocking so we must
"discover" it at boot time. This process either is inaccurate or slow (I think
we use ~ 50 ms these days which gives an error of ~10 TSC cycles on a 800MHZ
box). FWIW the problem here is the sync up with the I/O backplane to find the
start and ending of the measured time.
I suspect that the IA64 "tells" you what its clock rate is. Right?
>
--
George Anzinger george@mvista.com
High-res-timers: http://sourceforge.net/projects/high-res-timers/
Preemption patch: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rml
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-09-07 18:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-09-02 21:07 [RFC] New Time of day proposal (updated 9/2/04) john stultz
2004-09-02 21:09 ` [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday core subsystem (v.A0) john stultz
2004-09-02 21:11 ` [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday i386 hooks (v.A0) john stultz
2004-09-02 21:12 ` [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday i386 timesources (v.A0) john stultz
2004-09-03 1:44 ` [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday i386 hooks (v.A0) George Anzinger
2004-09-03 2:06 ` john stultz
2004-09-03 8:07 ` Ulrich Windl
2004-09-03 18:09 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-02 22:19 ` [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday core subsystem (v.A0) Christoph Lameter
2004-09-02 22:28 ` john stultz
2004-09-02 22:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-02 23:14 ` john stultz
2004-09-02 23:39 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-03 0:07 ` john stultz
2004-09-03 0:47 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-03 1:30 ` john stultz
2004-09-03 7:43 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-03 19:32 ` john stultz
2004-09-03 16:18 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-03 21:00 ` john stultz
2004-09-03 22:04 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-03 23:00 ` john stultz
2004-09-04 0:11 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-03 1:39 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-03 1:58 ` john stultz
2004-09-03 6:42 ` Albert Cahalan
2004-09-03 7:24 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-03 19:27 ` john stultz
2004-09-03 22:10 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-03 23:32 ` john stultz
2004-09-04 0:02 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-08 18:07 ` john stultz
2004-09-09 0:08 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-09 0:51 ` john stultz
2004-09-09 3:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-09 3:32 ` john stultz
2004-09-09 4:31 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-09 6:37 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-09 8:09 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-09 19:07 ` john stultz
2004-09-09 20:49 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-13 21:29 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-13 22:25 ` john stultz
2004-09-13 22:45 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-14 6:53 ` Ulrich Windl
2004-09-14 17:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-15 0:57 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-15 3:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-15 8:04 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-15 8:54 ` Dominik Brodowski
2004-09-15 17:54 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-15 9:12 ` Andi Kleen
2004-09-15 15:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-15 18:00 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-15 18:28 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-15 6:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-15 16:32 ` john stultz
2004-09-15 16:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-15 17:13 ` john stultz
2004-09-15 17:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-15 18:48 ` john stultz
2004-09-15 19:58 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-15 20:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-16 7:02 ` Ulrich Windl
2004-09-03 19:18 ` john stultz
2004-09-02 22:09 ` [RFC] New Time of day proposal (updated 9/2/04) Christoph Lameter
2004-09-02 22:22 ` john stultz
2004-09-02 22:47 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-03 9:54 ` Dominik Brodowski
2004-09-03 19:41 ` john stultz
2004-09-03 20:26 ` Dominik Brodowski
2004-09-03 21:05 ` john stultz
2004-09-06 6:26 ` Ulrich Windl
2004-09-06 11:56 ` Alan Cox
2004-09-07 16:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-03 15:17 ` Andi Kleen
2004-09-03 20:11 ` john stultz
2004-09-04 13:00 ` Andi Kleen
2004-09-07 16:10 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-07 18:24 ` George Anzinger [this message]
2004-09-07 20:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-07 21:42 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-08 6:26 ` Ulrich Windl
2004-09-08 18:25 ` john stultz
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