netwinder or ARM build platform

netwinder or ARM build platform

[Larry McVoy]

BK found another bad hard drive today, on our netwinder.  The disk is dieing
badly unfortunately and I don't have installation media for this beast.
I suspect I can go find it but does anyone know of a faster build platform
for arm?  Russell uses bk on arms (no kidding, that's amazing) and so we
continue to support it but that netwinder is just amazingly slow.  If there
is a faster platform we want one.

Thanks.

--lm

Re: netwinder or ARM build platform

[David Woodhouse]

On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 10:59 -0700, Larry McVoy wrote:
> BK found another bad hard drive today, on our netwinder.  The disk is dieing
> badly unfortunately and I don't have installation media for this beast.
> I suspect I can go find it but does anyone know of a faster build platform
> for arm?  Russell uses bk on arms (no kidding, that's amazing) and so we
> continue to support it but that netwinder is just amazingly slow.  If there
> is a faster platform we want one.

TBH I'd suggest cross-building and testing in qemu-arm. Assuming
qemu-arm is actually working now.

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dwmw2

Re: netwinder or ARM build platform

[Ben Greear]

David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 10:59 -0700, Larry McVoy wrote:
> 
>>BK found another bad hard drive today, on our netwinder.  The disk is dieing
>>badly unfortunately and I don't have installation media for this beast.
>>I suspect I can go find it but does anyone know of a faster build platform
>>for arm?  Russell uses bk on arms (no kidding, that's amazing) and so we
>>continue to support it but that netwinder is just amazingly slow.  If there
>>is a faster platform we want one.

Maybe a zaurus with a WiFi NIC, mounting the file systems via NFS?

I can't hardly imagine that being faster than a NetWinder though!

Ben

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Re: netwinder or ARM build platform

[Andrew McGregor]

Lanner IXP425 dev board with minipci disk controller (USB?), or using NFS?

Advantech have a PXA-based processor module for their modular baseboards 
too.

Both are much cheaper than a Zaurus, both are about that fast and probably 
have much more IO bandwidth, being PCI machines.

Andrew

--On Thursday, 9 September 2004 4:38 p.m. -0700 Ben Greear 
<greearb@candelatech.com> wrote:

> David Woodhouse wrote:
>> On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 10:59 -0700, Larry McVoy wrote:
>>
>>> BK found another bad hard drive today, on our netwinder.  The disk is
>>> dieing badly unfortunately and I don't have installation media for this
>>> beast. I suspect I can go find it but does anyone know of a faster
>>> build platform for arm?  Russell uses bk on arms (no kidding, that's
>>> amazing) and so we continue to support it but that netwinder is just
>>> amazingly slow.  If there is a faster platform we want one.
>
> Maybe a zaurus with a WiFi NIC, mounting the file systems via NFS?
>
> I can't hardly imagine that being faster than a NetWinder though!
>
> Ben
>
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Re: netwinder or ARM build platform

[Lennert Buytenhek]

On Fri, Sep 10, 2004 at 12:22:23AM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:

> > BK found another bad hard drive today, on our netwinder.  The disk is dieing
> > badly unfortunately and I don't have installation media for this beast.
> > I suspect I can go find it but does anyone know of a faster build platform
> > for arm?  Russell uses bk on arms (no kidding, that's amazing) and so we
> > continue to support it but that netwinder is just amazingly slow.  If there
> > is a faster platform we want one.
> 
> TBH I'd suggest cross-building and testing in qemu-arm. Assuming
> qemu-arm is actually working now.

Not quite.  It works okay for simple binaries now, but still craps out
on running bigger apps such as gcc.

I'm using the gumstix (www.gumstix.com) myself for little endian ARM
builds, but they only have 64M RAM and no ethernet or IDE.  For big
endian, I use the Linksys NSLU2, which has only 32M RAM but ethernet
and dual USB (which lets you hook up a disk each.)


--L

Re: netwinder or ARM build platform

[Andrey Panin]

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On 253, 09 09, 2004 at 10:59:17AM -0700, Larry McVoy wrote:
> BK found another bad hard drive today, on our netwinder.  The disk is dieing
> badly unfortunately and I don't have installation media for this beast.
> I suspect I can go find it but does anyone know of a faster build platform
> for arm?  Russell uses bk on arms (no kidding, that's amazing) and so we
> continue to support it but that netwinder is just amazingly slow.  If there
> is a faster platform we want one.

What about these beasts http://www.iyonix.com/ ?

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Re: netwinder or ARM build platform

[Brad Campbell]

Andrey Panin wrote:
> On 253, 09 09, 2004 at 10:59:17AM -0700, Larry McVoy wrote:
> 
>>BK found another bad hard drive today, on our netwinder.  The disk is dieing
>>badly unfortunately and I don't have installation media for this beast.
>>I suspect I can go find it but does anyone know of a faster build platform
>>for arm?  Russell uses bk on arms (no kidding, that's amazing) and so we
>>continue to support it but that netwinder is just amazingly slow.  If there
>>is a faster platform we want one.
> 
> 
> What about these beasts http://www.iyonix.com/ ?
> 

I don't know about the netwinder, but I do a lot of native builds on my iPAQ 5550 (400MHz 128MB Ram) 
using a full debian install chroot over nfs with a PCMCIA network card. It's solid and reliable anyway.

Regards,
Brad