From: Keith Whitwell <keith@tungstengraphics.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: "Dave Airlie" <airlied@linux.ie>,
"Jon Smirl" <jonsmirl@gmail.com>,
"Felix Kühling" <fxkuehl@gmx.de>,
"DRI Devel" <dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: radeon-pre-2
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 09:38:31 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4142B987.5050808@tungstengraphics.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1094853588.18235.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Alan Cox wrote:
> On Gwe, 2004-09-10 at 23:19, Dave Airlie wrote:
>
>>If the kernel developers can address this point I would be most
>>interested, in fact I don't want to hear any more about sharing lowlevel
>>VGA device drivers until someone addresses why it is acceptable to have
>>two separate driver driving the same hardware for video and not for
>>anything else.. (remembering graphics cards are not-multifunction cards -
>>like Christoph used as an example before - 2d/3d are not separate
>>functions...)...
>
>
> We've addressed this before. Zillions of drivers provide multiple
> functions to multiple higher level subsystems. They don't all have to
> be compiled together to make it work.
>
> 2D and 3D _are_ to most intents and purposes different functions. They
> are as different as IDE CD and IDE disk if not more so.
This depends to a great deal what you mean by 2D. The idea of a blitter or
dedicated 2D acceleration engine is rapidly becoming history. Several cards
currently ship without one, and I expect to see that become the norm in future.
But if you define 2D to include things like mode setting, etc, and not any
acceleration, then the split sortof works.
It might be better to call the components different names, like
"configuration" and "acceleration".
Keith
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2004-09-10 17:22 ` radeon-pre-2 Jon Smirl
2004-09-10 17:04 ` radeon-pre-2 Alan Cox
2004-09-10 18:40 ` radeon-pre-2 Jon Smirl
2004-09-10 22:19 ` radeon-pre-2 Dave Airlie
2004-09-10 22:00 ` radeon-pre-2 Alan Cox
2004-09-10 23:24 ` radeon-pre-2 Dave Airlie
2004-09-11 7:40 ` radeon-pre-2 Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-09-11 8:42 ` radeon-pre-2 Keith Whitwell
2004-09-11 13:59 ` radeon-pre-2 Alan Cox
2004-09-11 0:47 ` radeon-pre-2 Vladimir Dergachev
2004-09-11 8:43 ` radeon-pre-2 Keith Whitwell
2004-09-11 12:23 ` radeon-pre-2 Mike Mestnik
2004-09-11 15:39 ` radeon-pre-2 Vladimir Dergachev
2004-09-11 14:14 ` radeon-pre-2 Alan Cox
2004-09-11 0:50 ` radeon-pre-2 Dave Airlie
2004-09-11 3:30 ` radeon-pre-2 Michel Dänzer
2004-09-11 5:19 ` radeon-pre-2 Dave Airlie
2004-09-11 6:12 ` radeon-pre-2 Michel Dänzer
2004-09-11 7:11 ` radeon-pre-2 Vladimir Dergachev
2004-09-11 14:36 ` radeon-pre-2 Alan Cox
2004-09-11 15:53 ` radeon-pre-2 Vladimir Dergachev
2004-09-11 15:14 ` radeon-pre-2 Alan Cox
2004-09-11 17:10 ` radeon-pre-2 Vladimir Dergachev
2004-09-11 16:20 ` radeon-pre-2 Alan Cox
2004-09-11 17:49 ` radeon-pre-2 Vladimir Dergachev
2004-09-11 17:59 ` radeon-pre-2 Jon Smirl
2004-09-11 18:05 ` radeon-pre-2 Vladimir Dergachev
2004-09-11 18:09 ` radeon-pre-2 Jon Smirl
2004-09-12 1:55 ` radeon-pre-2 Mike Mestnik
2004-09-11 9:20 ` radeon-pre-2 Antonino A. Daplas
2004-09-11 14:40 ` radeon-pre-2 Alan Cox
2004-09-11 16:34 ` radeon-pre-2 Jon Smirl
2004-09-11 14:33 ` radeon-pre-2 Alan Cox
2004-09-11 16:46 ` radeon-pre-2 Jon Smirl
2004-09-11 16:21 ` radeon-pre-2 Alan Cox
2004-09-11 17:27 ` radeon-pre-2 Jon Smirl
2004-09-13 11:40 ` radeon-pre-2 Keith Whitwell
2004-09-11 19:10 ` radeon-pre-2 Hamie
2004-09-11 23:20 ` radeon-pre-2 Alan Cox
2004-09-12 9:13 ` radeon-pre-2 Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-09-12 11:36 ` radeon-pre-2 Hamie
2004-09-12 17:31 ` radeon-pre-2 Alan Cox
2004-09-11 16:23 ` radeon-pre-2 Alan Cox
2004-09-11 14:25 ` radeon-pre-2 Alan Cox
2004-09-12 22:42 ` radeon-pre-2 Dave Airlie
2004-09-12 23:03 ` radeon-pre-2 Linus Torvalds
2004-09-13 0:27 ` radeon-pre-2 Michel Dänzer
2004-09-13 0:45 ` radeon-pre-2 Vladimir Dergachev
2004-09-13 0:52 ` radeon-pre-2 Michel Dänzer
2004-09-13 14:52 ` radeon-pre-2 Vladimir Dergachev
2004-09-13 13:57 ` radeon-pre-2 Alan Cox
2004-09-13 15:20 ` radeon-pre-2 Vladimir Dergachev
2004-09-13 15:07 ` radeon-pre-2 Alan Cox
2004-09-13 15:20 ` radeon-pre-2 Linus Torvalds
2004-09-13 19:21 ` radeon-pre-2 Alex Deucher
2004-09-13 20:42 ` radeon-pre-2 David Bronaugh
2004-09-13 21:57 ` radeon-pre-2 Alex Deucher
2004-09-13 16:26 ` radeon-pre-2 Michel Dänzer
2004-09-13 6:05 ` radeon-pre-2 Alex Deucher
2004-09-13 16:29 ` radeon-pre-2 Michel Dänzer
2004-09-13 6:41 ` radeon-pre-2 Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-13 11:26 ` radeon-pre-2 Alan Cox
2004-09-13 15:06 ` radeon-pre-2 Jon Smirl
2004-09-13 15:04 ` radeon-pre-2 Alan Cox
2004-09-13 16:28 ` radeon-pre-2 Jon Smirl
2004-09-13 16:43 ` radeon-pre-2 Alan Cox
2004-09-13 18:11 ` radeon-pre-2 Jon Smirl
2004-09-13 18:49 ` radeon-pre-2 Jesse Barnes
2004-09-13 22:17 ` radeon-pre-2 Antonino A. Daplas
2004-09-13 17:50 ` radeon-pre-2 Jon Smirl
2004-09-14 10:27 ` radeon-pre-2 Alan Cox
2004-09-11 8:38 ` Keith Whitwell [this message]
2004-09-10 23:10 ` radeon-pre-2 Jon Smirl
2004-09-10 22:17 ` radeon-pre-2 Alan Cox
2004-09-11 12:27 ` radeon-pre-2 Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-11 12:49 ` radeon-pre-2 Mike Mestnik
2004-09-11 16:45 ` radeon-pre-2 Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-11 16:11 ` radeon-pre-2 Jon Smirl
2004-09-11 16:45 ` radeon-pre-2 Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-11 17:02 ` radeon-pre-2 Linus Torvalds
2004-09-11 16:18 ` radeon-pre-2 Alan Cox
2004-09-11 17:49 ` radeon-pre-2 Linus Torvalds
2004-09-11 17:13 ` radeon-pre-2 Jon Smirl
2004-09-11 16:23 ` radeon-pre-2 Alan Cox
2004-09-11 17:41 ` radeon-pre-2 Linus Torvalds
2004-09-11 17:57 ` radeon-pre-2 Michel Dänzer
2004-09-11 20:29 ` radeon-pre-2 Eric Anholt
2004-09-11 21:41 ` radeon-pre-2 Jon Smirl
2004-09-11 17:54 ` radeon-pre-2 Jon Smirl
2004-09-11 18:13 ` radeon-pre-2 Linus Torvalds
2004-09-11 21:02 ` radeon-pre-2 Jon Smirl
2004-09-11 21:06 ` radeon-pre-2 Christoph Hellwig
2004-09-11 21:37 ` radeon-pre-2 Jon Smirl
2004-09-11 23:23 ` radeon-pre-2 Alan Cox
2004-09-12 7:12 ` radeon-pre-2 Eric Anholt
2004-09-12 0:21 ` radeon-pre-2 Jon Smirl
2004-09-12 0:28 ` radeon-pre-2 Linus Torvalds
2004-09-12 23:53 ` radeon-pre-2 Dave Airlie
2004-09-11 18:17 ` radeon-pre-2 Vladimir Dergachev
2004-09-10 17:12 ` radeon-pre-2 Alan Cox
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2004-09-11 2:20 ` radeon-pre-2 Jon Smirl
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