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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Zwane Mwaikambo <zwane@linuxpower.ca>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	torvalds@osdl.org, paulus@samba.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, anton@samba.org,
	jun.nakajima@intel.com, ak@suse.de, mingo@elte.hu
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Yielding processor resources during lock contention
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 14:32:47 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4143D16F.30500@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0409120108310.2297@montezuma.fsmlabs.com>

Zwane Mwaikambo wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Sep 2004, Andrew Morton wrote:

>>Now, maybe Paul has tied himself into sufficiently tangly locking knots
>>that in some circumstances he needs to spin on the lock and cannot schedule
>>away.  But he can still use a semaphore and spin on down_trylock.
>>
>>Confused by all of this.
> 
> 
> Well currently it just enables preempt and spins like a mad man until the 
> lock is free. The idea is to allow preempt to get some scheduling done 
> during the spin.. But! if you accept this patch today, you get the 
> i386 version which will allow your processor to halt until a write to the 
> lock occurs whilst allowing interrupts to also trigger the preempt 
> scheduling, much easier on the caches.
> 

That's the idea though isn't it? If your locks are significantly more
expensive than a context switch and associated cache trashing, use a
semaphore, hypervisor or no.

I presume the hypervisor switch much incur the same sorts of costs as
a context switch?

  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-12  5:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-03  0:02 [PATCH][5/8] Arch agnostic completely out of line locks / ppc64 Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-09-09  5:42 ` Paul Mackerras
2004-09-09 12:41   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-09-09 14:54     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-09-09 14:55       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-09-09 15:32         ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-09-12  4:59           ` [PATCH] Yielding processor resources during lock contention Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-09-12  5:00             ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-12  5:10               ` Anton Blanchard
2004-09-12  5:13               ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-09-12  4:32                 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2004-09-12  5:33                   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-09-12  4:46                     ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-12  5:51                       ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-09-12  5:02                         ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-12  6:09                           ` Anton Blanchard
2004-09-12  6:58                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-12  5:18                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-12  5:10             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-09-12  5:27               ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-09-13 12:21                 ` [PATCH] Yielding processor resources during lock contention #2 Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-09-12  7:49             ` [PATCH] Yielding processor resources during lock contention Ingo Molnar
2004-09-12 16:10               ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-09-12 19:34                 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-12 10:10             ` Arnd Bergmann
2004-09-12 10:43               ` Anton Blanchard
2004-09-12 11:12                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2004-09-09 15:43     ` [PATCH][5/8] Arch agnostic completely out of line locks / ppc64 Anton Blanchard
2004-09-09 17:19       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-09 21:38         ` Paul Mackerras
2004-09-09 22:00           ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-09 23:36             ` Paul Mackerras
2004-09-10  0:09               ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-10  0:21                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-09-10  0:35                   ` Anton Blanchard
2004-09-10  0:54                     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-09-10  1:42                       ` Anton Blanchard
2004-09-10  1:50                         ` Anton Blanchard
2004-09-10  2:22                           ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-10  2:32                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-10  2:37                               ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-10  3:24                             ` Anton Blanchard
2004-09-10  7:40                             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-10 12:16                               ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-10 12:22                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-10  3:23                       ` Anton Blanchard
2004-09-10  7:56                         ` Anton Blanchard
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-09-13  0:45 [PATCH] Yielding processor resources during lock contention Nakajima, Jun
2004-09-13  1:35 Nakajima, Jun
2004-09-13  6:35 ` Ingo Molnar

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