From: George Anzinger <george@mvista.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
Albert Cahalan <albert@users.sourceforge.net>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
tim@physik3.uni-rostock.de, Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de,
Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
linux@dominikbrodowski.de, David Mosberger <davidm@hpl.hp.com>,
Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
paulus@samba.org, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com, jimix@us.ibm.com,
keith maanthey <kmannth@us.ibm.com>, greg kh <greg@kroah.com>,
Patricia Gaughen <gone@us.ibm.com>,
Chris McDermott <lcm@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday core subsystem (v.A0)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:00:38 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <41488346.1020101@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0409150843270.14721@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
Christoph Lameter wrote:
~
>>>One could do this but we want to have a tickless system. The tick is only
>>>necessary if the time needs to be adjusted.
>>
>>I really think a tickless system, for other than UML systems, is a loosing
>>thing. The accounting overhead on context switch (which increases as the number
>>of switchs per second) will cause more overhead than a periodic accounting tick
>>once a respectable load appears. The periodic accounting tick has a flat
>>overhead that does not depend on load.
>
>
> I am not following you here. Why does the context switch overhead
> increase? Because there are multiple interrupts for different tasks done
> in the tick?
>
Each task has several timers, i.e. time slice, time limit, and possibly itimer
profile. Granted only one of these needs to be sent to the timer code, but that
takes a bit of time, not much, but enough to increase the context switch
overhead such that a system with a modest amount of context switching will incur
more timer management overhead than the periodic tick generates.
--
George Anzinger george@mvista.com
High-res-timers: http://sourceforge.net/projects/high-res-timers/
Preemption patch: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rml
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-09-15 18:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-09-02 21:07 [RFC] New Time of day proposal (updated 9/2/04) john stultz
2004-09-02 21:09 ` [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday core subsystem (v.A0) john stultz
2004-09-02 21:11 ` [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday i386 hooks (v.A0) john stultz
2004-09-02 21:12 ` [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday i386 timesources (v.A0) john stultz
2004-09-03 1:44 ` [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday i386 hooks (v.A0) George Anzinger
2004-09-03 2:06 ` john stultz
2004-09-03 8:07 ` Ulrich Windl
2004-09-03 18:09 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-02 22:19 ` [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday core subsystem (v.A0) Christoph Lameter
2004-09-02 22:28 ` john stultz
2004-09-02 22:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-02 23:14 ` john stultz
2004-09-02 23:39 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-03 0:07 ` john stultz
2004-09-03 0:47 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-03 1:30 ` john stultz
2004-09-03 7:43 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-03 19:32 ` john stultz
2004-09-03 16:18 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-03 21:00 ` john stultz
2004-09-03 22:04 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-03 23:00 ` john stultz
2004-09-04 0:11 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-03 1:39 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-03 1:58 ` john stultz
2004-09-03 6:42 ` Albert Cahalan
2004-09-03 7:24 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-03 19:27 ` john stultz
2004-09-03 22:10 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-03 23:32 ` john stultz
2004-09-04 0:02 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-08 18:07 ` john stultz
2004-09-09 0:08 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-09 0:51 ` john stultz
2004-09-09 3:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-09 3:32 ` john stultz
2004-09-09 4:31 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-09 6:37 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-09 8:09 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-09 19:07 ` john stultz
2004-09-09 20:49 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-13 21:29 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-13 22:25 ` john stultz
2004-09-13 22:45 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-14 6:53 ` Ulrich Windl
2004-09-14 17:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-15 0:57 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-15 3:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-15 8:04 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-15 8:54 ` Dominik Brodowski
2004-09-15 17:54 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-15 9:12 ` Andi Kleen
2004-09-15 15:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-15 18:00 ` George Anzinger [this message]
2004-09-15 18:28 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-15 6:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-15 16:32 ` john stultz
2004-09-15 16:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-15 17:13 ` john stultz
2004-09-15 17:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-15 18:48 ` john stultz
2004-09-15 19:58 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-15 20:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-16 7:02 ` Ulrich Windl
2004-09-03 19:18 ` john stultz
2004-09-02 22:09 ` [RFC] New Time of day proposal (updated 9/2/04) Christoph Lameter
2004-09-02 22:22 ` john stultz
2004-09-02 22:47 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-03 9:54 ` Dominik Brodowski
2004-09-03 19:41 ` john stultz
2004-09-03 20:26 ` Dominik Brodowski
2004-09-03 21:05 ` john stultz
2004-09-06 6:26 ` Ulrich Windl
2004-09-06 11:56 ` Alan Cox
2004-09-07 16:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-03 15:17 ` Andi Kleen
2004-09-03 20:11 ` john stultz
2004-09-04 13:00 ` Andi Kleen
2004-09-07 16:10 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-07 18:24 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-07 20:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-07 21:42 ` George Anzinger
2004-09-08 6:26 ` Ulrich Windl
2004-09-08 18:25 ` john stultz
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2004-09-06 6:08 ` [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday core subsystem (v.A0) Ulrich Windl
2004-09-12 17:11 ` Albert Cahalan
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