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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@novell.com>,
	Robert Love <rml@novell.com>, Roland Dreier <roland@topspin.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Preempt? (was Re: Cannot enable DMA on SATA drive (SCSI-libsata, VIA SATA))
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 13:43:53 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <416369F9.7050205@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4163660A.4010804@pobox.com>

Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> 
>> So I disagree with your claim that preempt risks to hide inefficient
>> code, there are many other (probably easier) ways to detect inefficient
>> code than to check the latencies.
> 
> 
> 
> You're ignoring the argument :)
> 
> If users and developers are presented with the _impression_ that long 
> latency code paths don't exist, then nobody is motivated to profile them 
> (with any tool), much less fix them.
> 

But even without preempt you'd still have to profile the latency.

If anyone with !preempt notices unacceptable latency, then they can
report and/or profile and fix it. If not, then !preempt latency must
be acceptable.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-06  3:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <4136E7EF00073144@mail-3.tiscali.it>
2004-10-06  0:30 ` Cannot enable DMA on SATA drive (SCSI-libsata, VIA SATA) Gianluca Cecchi
2004-10-06  0:54   ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-06  1:00     ` Preempt? (was Re: Cannot enable DMA on SATA drive (SCSI-libsata, VIA SATA)) Roland Dreier
2004-10-06  1:11       ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-06  1:28         ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-06  1:32           ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-06  1:40           ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-06  1:52             ` Robert Love
2004-10-06  1:55               ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-06  2:02                 ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-06  2:07                   ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-06  2:28                     ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-06  3:17                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-06  3:27                       ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-06  3:43                         ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2004-10-06  3:59                           ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-06  4:05                             ` Lee Revell
2004-10-06  4:22                             ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-06 15:16                             ` Aleksandar Milivojevic
2004-10-06  4:03                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-06  4:08                           ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-06  4:16                             ` Lee Revell
2004-10-06  4:26                             ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-06  4:46                             ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-06  6:04                               ` Jeff Garzik
2004-10-06  6:16                                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-06 13:38                                   ` Jeff Sipek
2004-10-06  4:12                         ` Lee Revell
2004-10-06  3:34                       ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-06  2:07                 ` Robert Love
2004-10-06  2:30                   ` Nick Piggin

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