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From: Richard Smith <rsmith@bitworks.com>
To: KendallB@scitechsoft.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Generic VESA framebuffer driver and Video card BOOT?
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:39:23 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4174704B.9050601@bitworks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41740384.5783.12A07B14@localhost>

Kendall Bennett wrote:

> Actually there is nothing wrong with the x86 BIOS from the perspective of 
> functionality and useability (or bloat for that matter). It contains all 
> the functionality we need and armed with something like the x86 emulator 
> we can use it for what we need on any platform.

> IMHO that is the best solution to the problem because it will be using 
> code that has been heavily tested by the vendor. The one thing x86 Video 
> BIOS'es can do reliably is POST the graphics card ;-)

I'm just going to take your word on this since you have messed with far 
more video bioses than I.  I've just got a few too many scars over the 
years from trying to make the whole BIOS sub-system robust enough for 
embedded standards.

> That would be nice if you could trim it down ;-) Would certainly save a 

Check out linux-tiny (http://www.selenic.com/tiny-about/)

> lot of code bloat. But if you do that, then you would need this code in 
> the kernel since now it would be the boot loader as well ;-)

Exactly. Which is why I like your project and I think its a good thing. 
    The only reason I have to carry around the legacy BIOS baggage is 
for video.

How big is your in-kernel implementation?

-- 
Richard A. Smith



  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-19  1:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-14 19:02 Generic VESA framebuffer driver and Video card BOOT? Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15  0:27 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Antonino A. Daplas
2004-10-15 18:36   ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 21:51     ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-10-15 23:20       ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-15 23:51         ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 23:58           ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-19 21:15           ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-16  1:50         ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-10-16  2:03           ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-18 19:34             ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-18 20:34               ` Richard Smith
2004-10-18 20:47                 ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-18 21:04                   ` Richard Smith
2004-10-18 21:16                 ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-18 22:34                   ` Richard Smith
2004-10-18 23:28                     ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-19  0:18                       ` Richard Smith
2004-10-19  0:55                     ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-19  1:39                       ` Richard Smith [this message]
2004-10-19 17:54                         ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-19 21:48                       ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-20 17:01                         ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-20 19:08                           ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-21 19:36                             ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-19 21:42                   ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-15 12:05 ` Gerd Knorr
2004-10-15 12:38   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-15 12:45     ` Alan Cox
2004-10-19 21:54       ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-15 13:13     ` Gerd Knorr
2004-10-17 12:07       ` Martin Waitz
2004-10-18  8:36         ` Gerd Knorr
2004-10-18 11:39           ` Martin Waitz
2004-10-18 12:10             ` Gerd Knorr
2004-10-18 20:21               ` Helge Hafting
2004-10-18 20:42                 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-10-19 16:57                   ` Martin Waitz
2004-10-15 18:29     ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2004-10-16  9:01       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-10-15 18:36   ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 13:48 ` Helge Hafting
2004-10-15 18:36   ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 21:44     ` Helge Hafting
2004-10-15 22:12       ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-16  0:41         ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Antonino A. Daplas
2004-10-26 11:14           ` Paulo Marques
2004-10-27  1:58             ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-27 11:11               ` Paulo Marques
2004-10-27 19:52                 ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 21:51     ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-10-16 17:44 ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-18 19:34   ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Kendall Bennett
2004-10-19 21:00 ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-19 21:11 ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-20 17:01   ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Kendall Bennett
2004-10-20 17:31     ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-20 18:44       ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-20 19:10         ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-21 19:36           ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-21 20:47             ` Richard Smith

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