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From: Michael Clark <michael@metaparadigm.com>
To: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortelnetworks.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: UDP recvmsg blocks after select(), 2.6 bug?
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:14:07 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <417753AF.9060106@metaparadigm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41774E20.8000309@nortelnetworks.com>

On 10/21/04 13:50, Chris Friesen wrote:
> H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> 
>>> H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>>>
>>>> The whole point is that it doesn't break the *documented* interface.
> 
> 
>> I'm talking about returning -1, EIO.
> 
> 
> 
> Ah.  By "it", I thought you meant the current performance optimizations, 
> not the EIO.  My apologies.

Same.

> I think returning EIO is suboptimal, as it is not an expected error 
> value for recvmsg().  (It's not listed in the man pages for recvmsg() or 
> ip.)  It would certainly work for new apps, but probably not for many 
> existing binaries.

Yes, big likelyhood of breaking apps although does give you the
deterministic behaviour of recvmsg not blocking after select.

> On the other hand, if you simply do the checksum verification at 
> select() time for blocking sockets, then the existing binaries get 
> exactly the behaviour they expect.

This would be the best from existing usersapce apps, although i'd much
rather have EIO returned than the current behaviour if that was that
was the only choice (although the offshoot would be the need for patches
to quite a few apps).

~mc

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-10-21  6:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 191+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-06 14:52 UDP recvmsg blocks after select(), 2.6 bug? Joris van Rantwijk
2004-10-06 15:01 ` David S. Miller
2004-10-06 15:13   ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-06 15:15   ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-06 15:21     ` David S. Miller
2004-10-06 15:29       ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-06 15:42         ` David S. Miller
2004-10-06 15:57           ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-06 15:44         ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-10-07  1:16         ` Paul Jakma
2004-10-07  7:10           ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-07 11:53             ` Paul Jakma
2004-10-07 13:32               ` Martijn Sipkema
2004-10-07 12:53                 ` Paul Jakma
2004-10-07 13:12                   ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-07 14:07                   ` Martijn Sipkema
2004-10-07 13:19                     ` Paul Jakma
2004-10-07 13:36                     ` Paul Jakma
2004-10-07 15:01                       ` Jean-Sebastien Trottier
2004-10-07 16:20                         ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-07 18:20                           ` Hua Zhong
2004-10-07 18:33                             ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-07 22:41                               ` Martijn Sipkema
2004-10-07 21:49                                 ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-07 22:00                                   ` David S. Miller
2004-10-07 22:24                                     ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-07 22:26                                       ` David S. Miller
2004-10-07 22:39                                         ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-07 22:42                                           ` David S. Miller
2004-10-07 23:27                                             ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-08  0:04                                               ` Ben Greear
2004-10-08  2:51                                             ` Mark Mielke
2004-10-08  3:39                                               ` David S. Miller
2004-10-08  3:48                                                 ` Mark Mielke
2004-10-08  3:59                                                   ` David S. Miller
2004-10-07 23:19                                     ` Martijn Sipkema
2004-10-07 22:24                                       ` David S. Miller
2004-10-07 22:33                                         ` Alan Curry
2004-10-07 22:42                                         ` Mark Mielke
2004-10-07 22:47                                           ` David S. Miller
2004-10-07 23:00                                             ` Mark Mielke
2004-10-07 23:07                                               ` David S. Miller
2004-10-08  6:10                                               ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-10-08 15:20                                                 ` Mark Mielke
2004-10-08  0:37                                             ` Lee Revell
2004-10-07 22:46                                         ` Hua Zhong
2004-10-07 22:48                                           ` David S. Miller
2004-10-07 23:17                                   ` Martijn Sipkema
2004-10-07 13:45                     ` Alan Cox
2004-10-07 16:32                       ` Martijn Sipkema
2004-10-07 14:50                         ` Alan Cox
2004-10-07 21:58                           ` mmap specification - was: ... select specification Andries Brouwer
2004-10-07 22:17                             ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-10-07 22:34                               ` Andries Brouwer
2004-10-07 22:32                             ` Kyle Moffett
2004-10-07 22:46                               ` Andries Brouwer
2004-10-07 23:30                                 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-10-08  9:19                                   ` Andries Brouwer
2004-10-09 21:10                                     ` Martijn Sipkema
2004-10-07 13:48                     ` UDP recvmsg blocks after select(), 2.6 bug? Alan Cox
2004-10-07 14:57                       ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-07 15:18                       ` Adam Heath
2004-10-07 16:39                         ` Martijn Sipkema
2004-10-07 16:09                           ` Mark Mielke
2004-10-07 17:18                             ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-06 15:31       ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-06 15:41         ` David S. Miller
2004-10-06 16:07           ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-06 16:57           ` Neil Horman
2004-10-06 15:59       ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-06 16:35       ` Martijn Sipkema
2004-10-06 15:30     ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-06 15:09 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-10-06 15:18 ` bert hubert
2004-10-06 16:41 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-06 18:04   ` Joris van Rantwijk
2004-10-06 19:30     ` Andries Brouwer
2004-10-06 19:23       ` Alan Cox
2004-10-06 22:08         ` Martijn Sipkema
2004-10-06 20:25           ` Alan Cox
2004-10-06 22:15             ` Andries Brouwer
2004-10-06 22:32               ` David S. Miller
2004-10-06 23:25               ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2004-10-06 23:11             ` Willy Tarreau
2004-10-06 19:43       ` Hua Zhong
2004-10-06 19:54         ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-06 19:59           ` Hua Zhong
2004-10-06 20:10             ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-06 21:45               ` Martijn Sipkema
2004-10-06 23:35                 ` David S. Miller
2004-10-06 20:06           ` David S. Miller
2004-10-06 20:18             ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-06 20:26               ` Hua Zhong
2004-10-06 20:38               ` Andries Brouwer
2004-10-06 20:58                 ` Joris van Rantwijk
2004-10-06 22:29                 ` David S. Miller
2004-10-07 16:08                 ` Adrian Phillips
2004-10-06 20:06         ` Olivier Galibert
2004-10-06 23:35           ` David S. Miller
2004-10-07  0:19             ` Olivier Galibert
2004-10-07  0:29               ` David S. Miller
2004-10-07 10:56                 ` Martijn Sipkema
2004-10-08  6:41                 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-10-08 15:27                   ` Mark Mielke
2004-10-15 22:42                   ` Robert White
2004-10-15 23:33                     ` David Schwartz
2004-10-16  0:59                       ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-16  2:35                       ` Mark Mielke
2004-10-16  4:23                         ` David Schwartz
2004-10-16  4:35                           ` Mark Mielke
2004-10-16  4:58                             ` David Schwartz
2004-10-16  6:25                               ` Mark Mielke
2004-10-16 21:44                                 ` Roland Kuhn
2004-10-17  0:06                                   ` Mark Mielke
2004-10-17  0:30                                     ` David Schwartz
2004-10-17 14:47                                       ` Mark Mielke
2004-10-17  0:28                                 ` David Schwartz
2004-10-17 13:35                                   ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-10-17 14:17                                     ` Buddy Lucas
2004-10-17 15:05                                       ` Mark Mielke
2004-10-17 15:40                                         ` Buddy Lucas
2004-10-17 16:13                                           ` Lee Revell
2004-10-17 17:35                                           ` Jesper Juhl
2004-10-17 18:04                                             ` Buddy Lucas
2004-10-17 18:06                                               ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-10-17 18:21                                                 ` Buddy Lucas
2004-10-17 20:04                                                 ` Martijn Sipkema
2004-10-17 20:08                                                   ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-10-17 17:35                                           ` Martijn Sipkema
2004-10-17 17:33                                             ` Buddy Lucas
2004-10-17 19:58                                               ` Martijn Sipkema
2004-10-17 19:33                                                 ` Buddy Lucas
2004-10-17 20:11                                                   ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-10-17 20:25                                                     ` Buddy Lucas
2004-10-17 20:42                                                   ` Martijn Sipkema
2004-10-17 20:02                                                     ` Buddy Lucas
2004-10-17 18:53                                             ` David Schwartz
2004-10-17 19:26                                               ` Hua Zhong
2004-10-17 20:32                                               ` Martijn Sipkema
2004-10-17 19:21                                           ` Hua Zhong
2004-10-17 17:22                                       ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-10-17 17:54                                         ` Buddy Lucas
2004-10-17 18:05                                           ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-10-17 18:06                                           ` Mark Mielke
2004-10-20 21:31                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-10-20 21:58                                       ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-20 22:00                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-10-20 22:12                                           ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-20 23:16                                             ` David Schwartz
2004-10-21  1:03                                               ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-21  1:38                                                 ` David Schwartz
2004-10-21  3:01                                           ` Michael Clark
2004-10-21  3:52                                             ` Michael Clark
2004-10-21  4:10                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-10-21  5:06                                               ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-21  5:11                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-10-21  5:50                                                   ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-21  5:58                                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-10-21 15:18                                                       ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-21  6:14                                                     ` Michael Clark [this message]
2004-10-17 14:52                                   ` Mark Mielke
2004-10-16 18:25                               ` Andries Brouwer
2004-10-17  0:28                                 ` David Schwartz
2004-10-17 12:22                                   ` Andries Brouwer
2004-10-16 10:24                     ` Willy Tarreau
2004-10-16 13:21                       ` Mark Mielke
2004-10-18 22:25                       ` Robert White
2004-10-06 20:41         ` Neil Horman
2004-10-06 22:27           ` Chris Friesen
2004-10-06 23:32             ` Neil Horman
2004-10-06 23:36             ` David S. Miller
2004-10-07 19:31 ` David Schwartz
2004-10-07 22:36   ` Martijn Sipkema
2004-10-08  0:19     ` David Schwartz
2004-10-09 19:21       ` Martijn Sipkema
2004-10-09 18:28         ` David Schwartz
2004-10-09 18:49           ` Mark Mielke
2004-10-09 21:00             ` Martijn Sipkema
2004-10-09 22:59               ` Mark Mielke
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-10-06 15:30 Dan Kegel
2004-10-07  4:50 Dan Kegel
2004-10-07  8:04 ` bert hubert
2004-10-07  8:28   ` Adam Heath
2004-10-07 10:38     ` Martijn Sipkema
2004-10-07 10:07       ` Adam Heath
2004-10-07 11:29         ` Martijn Sipkema
2004-10-07 18:16 linux
2004-10-09 12:07 ` Colin Phipps
     [not found] <fa.haprsoi.8k8kbk@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.isqjio8.ok2coo@ifi.uio.no>
2004-10-09 13:24   ` Bodo Eggert
2004-10-19  1:21 John Pearson
2004-10-19 13:50 ` Colin Phipps

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