From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@novell.com>
Cc: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: PG_zero
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 12:47:05 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4186E719.4020100@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041101223419.GG3571@dualathlon.random>
Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 10:03:56AM -0800, Martin J. Bligh wrote:
>
>>[..] it was to stop cold
>>allocations from eating into hot pages [..]
>
>
> exactly, and I believe that hurts. bouncing on the global lock is going to
> hurt more than preserving an hot page (at least on a 512-way). Plus the
> cold page may very soon become hot too.
>
Well, the lock isn't global of course. You might be better off
benchmarking on an old Intel 8-way SMP rather than a 512-way Altix :)
But nevertheless I won't say the lock will never hurt.
> Plus you should at least allow an hot allocation to eat into the cold
> pages (which didn't happen IIRC).
>
> I simply believe using the lru ordering is a more efficient way to
> implement hot/cold behaviour and it will save some minor ram too (with
> big lists the reservation might even confuse the oom conditions, if the
> allocation is hot, but the VM frees in the cold "stopped" list). I know
> the cold list was a lot smaller so this is probably only a theoretical
> issue.
>
If you don't have cold allocations eating hot pages, nor cold frees
pushing out hot pages then it may be worthwhile.
If that helps a lot, then you couldn't you just have hot allocations
also check the cold list before falling back to the buddy?
I admit I didn't look closely at this - mainly the PG_zero stuff.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-11-02 1:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-10-30 14:10 PG_zero Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-30 21:07 ` PG_zero Andrew Morton
2004-10-30 22:45 ` PG_zero Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-31 15:35 ` PG_zero Martin J. Bligh
2004-11-01 21:57 ` PG_zero Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-01 22:05 ` PG_zero Martin J. Bligh
2004-11-02 3:41 ` PG_zero William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-31 15:17 ` PG_zero Martin J. Bligh
2004-11-02 13:53 ` PG_zero Andy Whitcroft
2004-11-02 19:39 ` PG_zero Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-01 17:26 ` PG_zero Nick Piggin
2004-11-01 18:03 ` PG_zero Martin J. Bligh
2004-11-01 22:34 ` PG_zero Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-01 23:47 ` PG_zero Martin J. Bligh
2004-11-02 1:47 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2004-11-02 2:21 ` PG_zero Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-02 2:54 ` PG_zero Nick Piggin
2004-11-02 15:42 ` PG_zero Martin J. Bligh
2004-11-02 19:50 ` PG_zero Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-02 22:41 ` PG_zero Martin J. Bligh
2004-11-03 1:26 ` PG_zero Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-02 21:09 ` PG_zero Andrew Morton
2004-11-02 21:56 ` PG_zero Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-02 22:41 ` PG_zero Martin J. Bligh
2004-11-03 1:09 ` PG_zero Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-03 1:18 ` PG_zero Martin J. Bligh
2004-11-03 1:23 ` PG_zero Nick Piggin
2004-11-03 2:05 ` PG_zero Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-03 11:53 ` PG_zero Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-03 12:10 ` PG_zero Pavel Machek
2004-11-01 22:24 ` PG_zero Andrea Arcangeli
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