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From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] optional non-interactive mode for cpu scheduler
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 00:02:04 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4187854C.6000803@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041102125218.GH15290@elte.hu>

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Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org> wrote:
> 
> 
>>optional non-interactive mode for cpu scheduler
> 
> 
> i think the following scheme would work better:
> 
>  - introduce a new SCHED_CPUBOUND policy
>  - return ->static_prio + 5 for such tasks
>  - keep their timeslice based off ->static_prio
> 
> the point is this: such tasks would thus be automatically and
> perpetually considered 'CPU hogs'. Applications cannot abuse this
> mechanism because they get the maximum 'penalty'.
> 
> and as a bonus, no magic sysctl and inherently more flexibility.
> 
> (note that this scheme has advantages above nice +5 because nice +5
> still has the interactivity stuff on which can create priority
> fluctuations and may thus affect workloads.)
> 
> if you agree with this scheme, would you be interested in implementing
> this?

The better cpu proportion guarantee without low latency of such a policy 
would be desirable to video encoding in the background while capturing 
in the foreground as one immediately recognisable purpose, and there are 
likely numerous others, so I agree it's a good idea.

However the non-interactive mode addresses a number of different needs 
that seem to have come up. Specifically:
I have had users report great success with such a mode on my own 
scheduler in multiple X session setups where very choppy behaviour 
occurs in mainline.
Many high performance computing people do not wish interactivity code 
modifying their choice of latency/distribution - admittedly this is a 
soft one.

What are your thoughts on this?

Con

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-11-02 13:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-11-02  5:31 [PATCH] optional non-interactive mode for cpu scheduler Con Kolivas
2004-11-02 12:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-02 13:02   ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2004-11-02 13:11     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-02 13:40       ` Con Kolivas
2004-11-02 13:52         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-02 17:17           ` Kyle Moffett
2004-11-03  9:16           ` Con Kolivas

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