From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
linux <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] remove interactive credit
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 17:24:17 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <41895A91.8090502@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41877DF5.8070008@yahoo.com.au>
Nick Piggin wrote:
> Con Kolivas wrote:
>
>> remove interactive credit
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Special casing tasks by interactive credit was helpful for preventing
>> fully
>> cpu bound tasks from easily rising to interactive status.
>> However it did not select out tasks that had periods of being fully
>> cpu bound
>> and then sleeping while waiting on pipes, signals etc. This led to a more
>> disproportionate share of cpu time.
>>
>> Backing this out will no longer special case only fully cpu bound
>> tasks, and
>> prevents the variable behaviour that occurs at startup before tasks
>> declare
>> themseleves interactive or not, and speeds up application startup
>> slightly
>> under certain circumstances. It does cost in interactivity slightly as
>> load
>> rises but it is worth it for the fairness gains.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
>>
>
> I'm scared :(
>
> I'm in favour of any attempts to simplify things... but will it be two
> months or three before this spontaneously explodes for half our userbase?
>
> Andrew's boss so he gets to decide >:)
If I read the intent right, this is an example of worst case avoidance,
where a little average interactivity is traded for preventing the case
where a single misguided process gets most/all of the CPU and
performance falls off the edge of the table. As a user I see that as the
same line of thought which gave us low-latency patches, to trade a
miniscule bit of one thing to avoid something really undesirable.
I suspect there will be people who don't want to make this trade,
although it sounds like a good one to me.
--
-bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com)
"The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the
last possible moment - but no longer" -me
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-11-03 22:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-11-02 4:06 [PATCH] remove interactive credit Con Kolivas
2004-11-02 12:30 ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-03 22:24 ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2004-11-02 12:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-02 12:40 ` Con Kolivas
2004-11-02 12:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-02 12:49 ` Con Kolivas
2004-11-02 12:59 ` Ingo Molnar
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