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From: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove OOM killer from try_to_free_pages / all_unreclaimable braindamage
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:11:16 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41916AB4.20308@cyberone.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041109071545.GA5473@logos.cnet>



Marcelo Tosatti wrote:

>On Mon, Nov 08, 2004 at 06:35:52PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
>
>>Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>>I'm not sure... it could also be just be a fluke
>>> due to chaotic effects in the mm, I suppose :|
>>>
>>2.6 scans less than 2.4 before declaring oom.  I looked at the 2.4
>>implementation and thought "whoa, that's crazy - let's reduce it and see
>>who complains".  My three-year-old memory tells me it was reduced by 2x to
>>3x.
>>
>>We need to find testcases (dammit) and do the analysis.  It could be that
>>we're simply not scanning far enough.
>>
>
>Andrew,
>
>When reading the code I was really suspicious of the all_unreclaimable code. 
>It basically stops scanning when reaching OOM conditions - that might be it.
>
>

Yeah, I saw a pretty good correlation between OOM killing and 
all_unreclaimable.

We've got some code to spit that out during an OOM kill now, so that 
might be
helpful.

>I tried to disable it (ignore it if priority==0) - result: very slow progress 
>on extreme load. 
>
>

I had a patch that caused try_to_free_pages to ignore all_unreclaimable and
go 'round the loop again if we reached oom-kill conditions. Basically that
guarantees you'll scan ~ pages_present*2 before going OOM. I think it may
be a good thing to do, but I wasn't really able to reproduce these early
OOM killings.


  reply	other threads:[~2004-11-10  1:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-11-05 20:01 [PATCH] Remove OOM killer from try_to_free_pages / all_unreclaimable braindamage Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-05 23:32 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-11-05 23:47   ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-06  1:20   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06  1:26     ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-06  1:36       ` Jesse Barnes
2004-11-06  1:50       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06  9:47         ` Hugh Dickins
2004-11-06 10:53           ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-06 15:29             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 15:29           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 16:21             ` Hugh Dickins
2004-12-10  6:02               ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-11-06 11:37         ` Nikita Danilov
2004-11-06 15:32           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 16:54             ` Nikita Danilov
2004-11-06 17:44               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 19:24                 ` Nikita Danilov
2004-11-07  1:16                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 10:11       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-06  1:55     ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-06 10:28       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-17 22:54       ` Werner Almesberger
2004-11-17 23:27         ` Chris Ross
2004-11-18  0:04           ` Werner Almesberger
2004-11-18  0:28             ` Chris Ross
2004-11-18  1:14               ` Werner Almesberger
2004-11-18  8:20                 ` Chris Ross
2004-11-18 10:01                   ` Werner Almesberger
2004-11-18 14:44                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-18 15:10                       ` Chris Friesen
2004-11-06 10:05     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-06 15:44       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 15:52         ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-11-06 17:09         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-07  0:48           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-07 11:21             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-06 12:53 ` [PATCH] Remove OOM killer Andries Brouwer
2004-11-06 10:41   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-07  9:26   ` Marko Macek
2004-11-07 11:34     ` memory overcommit (was: [PATCH] Remove OOM killer ...) Anton Ertl
2004-11-08 16:27 ` [PATCH] Remove OOM killer from try_to_free_pages / all_unreclaimable braindamage Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-08 18:55   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-09  2:22     ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-09  2:35       ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-09  2:46         ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-09  7:18           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-09  7:15         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-10  1:11           ` Nick Piggin [this message]
     [not found] <fa.ev73q5c.ejcnom@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.es1mdq5.76ib8j@ifi.uio.no>
2004-11-18 20:48   ` Bodo Eggert
2004-11-18 21:15     ` Werner Almesberger
2004-11-19  1:05       ` Bodo Eggert
2004-11-19  0:15     ` Andreas Dilger

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