* wait_event_interruptible() seems non-atomic
@ 2004-11-20 15:35 Jan Engelhardt
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From: Jan Engelhardt @ 2004-11-20 15:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-kernel
Hi list,
upon reviewing some of my code for a device driver, I've come across:
static ssize_t uif_read(struct file *filp, char __user *buf,
size_t count, loff_t *ppos)
{
// Nothing read, nothing done
if(count == 0) { return 0; }
// Must sleep as long as there is no data
if(down_interruptible(&Buffer_lock)) { return -ERESTARTSYS; }
while(BufRP == BufWP) {
up(&Buffer_lock);
if(filp->f_flags & O_NONBLOCK) { return -EAGAIN; }
// hm, the condition is not atomic or locked...
if(wait_event_interruptible(Pull_queue, (BufRP != BufWP))) {
return -ERESTARTSYS;
}
if(down_interruptible(&Buffer_lock)) { return -ERESTARTSYS; }
}
// Data is available, so give it to the user
...
}
As you can see, I lock Buffer_lock and then check BufRP == BufWP. I do that
because in an SMP environment, either of BufRP or BufWP might have been
updated. (I.e. one CPU currently does "mov BufRP to eax; mov BufWP to ebx; cmp
eax, ebx" while another does "inc BufWP")
I would like to also lock Buffer_lock around BufRP != BufWP, but don't see a
way on how to accomplish this.
Does anybody know a way how this could be achieved?
Jan Engelhardt
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* Re: wait_event_interruptible() seems non-atomic
@ 2004-11-20 16:16 Manfred Spraul
2004-11-20 16:26 ` Jan Engelhardt
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From: Manfred Spraul @ 2004-11-20 16:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jan Engelhardt; +Cc: linux-kernel
Hi Jan,
>I would like to also lock Buffer_lock around BufRP != BufWP, but don't see a
>way on how to accomplish this.
>
>
>
This is not a problem: You compare BufRP and BufWP twice: once within
wait_event_interruptible (without locking) and again a second test in
your uif_read function with locking.
You are right that the test within wait_event_interruptible is
optimistic: a concurrent uif_read could read the new data before the
initial uif_read has a chance to acquire the BufferLock. But it doesn't
matter: AFAICS the test is optimistic, it can't happen that BufRP and WP
are actually different and wait_event sleeps. And the external loop
within uif_read() just loops if the race that you describe happened.
Btw, could you post a link to the complete driver when asking questions?
For example the use of down_interruptible() looks wrong to me, I'd use
plain down().
--
Manfred
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* Re: wait_event_interruptible() seems non-atomic
2004-11-20 16:16 wait_event_interruptible() seems non-atomic Manfred Spraul
@ 2004-11-20 16:26 ` Jan Engelhardt
2004-11-20 18:31 ` Manfred Spraul
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From: Jan Engelhardt @ 2004-11-20 16:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Manfred Spraul; +Cc: linux-kernel
>Hi Jan,
>
>>I would like to also lock Buffer_lock around BufRP != BufWP, but don't see a
>>way on how to accomplish this.
>This is not a problem: You compare BufRP and BufWP twice: once within
>wait_event_interruptible (without locking) and again a second test in
>your uif_read function with locking.
>You are right that the test within wait_event_interruptible is
>optimistic: a concurrent uif_read could read the new data before the
>initial uif_read has a chance to acquire the BufferLock. But it doesn't
>matter: AFAICS the test is optimistic, it can't happen that BufRP and WP
>are actually different and wait_event sleeps. And the external loop
>within uif_read() just loops if the race that you describe happened.
Yay, I see now. It takes a fair amount of looking behind the scene to get the
idea. (It's just copy-and-paste from an O'reilly book with a few
modifications.)
Yes, there is always only one way from any insn you look at, which does not
require a lock.
>Btw, could you post a link to the complete driver when asking questions?
http://ttyrpld.sf.net/ -- "kernel-2.6/rpldev.c" in the tarball.
>For example the use of down_interruptible() looks wrong to me, I'd use
>plain down().
I'd like to be able to hit Ctrl+C (in the userspace application) whenever
possible. If that's not a reason, blame the book
http://www.xml.com/ldd/chapter/book/ch03.html#t8 ("the read method" a further
down below)
BTW, the complete book is at http://www.xml.com/ldd/chapter/book/index.html
Thanks,
Jan Engelhardt
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* Re: wait_event_interruptible() seems non-atomic
2004-11-20 16:26 ` Jan Engelhardt
@ 2004-11-20 18:31 ` Manfred Spraul
2004-11-21 9:40 ` Jan Engelhardt
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From: Manfred Spraul @ 2004-11-20 18:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jan Engelhardt; +Cc: linux-kernel
Jan Engelhardt wrote:
>>For example the use of down_interruptible() looks wrong to me, I'd use
>>plain down().
>>
>>
>
>I'd like to be able to hit Ctrl+C (in the userspace application) whenever
>possible. If that's not a reason, blame the book
>http://www.xml.com/ldd/chapter/book/ch03.html#t8 ("the read method" a further
>down below)
>
>
>
As far as I can see BufferLock is only held for tiny sections - the
longest thing is a copy_to_user(), i.e. at worst a swap in. I my opinion
the delay for handling Ctrl+C is therefore negligible and not worth the
added code for handling down_interruptible().
You have already written the code, so I'd leave it as it is and I'll
blame the book. They probably started from an older version of
fs/pipe.c, which contained _interruptible calls. There are gone now,
this allowed some cleanup.
--
Manfred
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* Re: wait_event_interruptible() seems non-atomic
2004-11-20 18:31 ` Manfred Spraul
@ 2004-11-21 9:40 ` Jan Engelhardt
2004-11-21 10:00 ` Manfred Spraul
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From: Jan Engelhardt @ 2004-11-21 9:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Manfred Spraul; +Cc: linux-kernel
>>>For example the use of down_interruptible() looks wrong to me, I'd use
>>>plain down().
>>
>>I'd like to be able to hit Ctrl+C (in the userspace application) whenever
>>possible. If that's not a reason, blame the book
>>http://www.xml.com/ldd/chapter/book/ch03.html#t8 ("the read method" a further
>>down below)
>
>You have already written the code, so I'd leave it as it is and I'll
>blame the book. They probably started from an older version of
>fs/pipe.c, which contained _interruptible calls. There are gone now,
>this allowed some cleanup.
Well, it's just one line so I would not care, and I'm also open for
suggestions. Does down_interruptible() cost so much more in CPU cycles than
down()?
Jan Engelhardt
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* Re: wait_event_interruptible() seems non-atomic
2004-11-21 9:40 ` Jan Engelhardt
@ 2004-11-21 10:00 ` Manfred Spraul
2004-11-21 10:21 ` Jan Engelhardt
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Manfred Spraul @ 2004-11-21 10:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jan Engelhardt; +Cc: linux-kernel
Jan Engelhardt wrote:
>>You have already written the code, so I'd leave it as it is and I'll
>>blame the book. They probably started from an older version of
>>fs/pipe.c, which contained _interruptible calls. There are gone now,
>>this allowed some cleanup.
>>
>>
>
>Well, it's just one line so I would not care, and I'm also open for
>suggestions. Does down_interruptible() cost so much more in CPU cycles than
>down()?
>
>
>
It's more about code complexity than performance. down_interruptible()
means that you must handle failures - double check that you free all
temporary allocations, decrease all reference counts (make the reference
counts atomic_t), etc.
--
Manfred
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* Re: wait_event_interruptible() seems non-atomic
2004-11-21 10:00 ` Manfred Spraul
@ 2004-11-21 10:21 ` Jan Engelhardt
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Jan Engelhardt @ 2004-11-21 10:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Manfred Spraul; +Cc: linux-kernel
>>Well, it's just one line so I would not care, and I'm also open for
>>suggestions. Does down_interruptible() cost so much more in CPU cycles than
>>down()?
>
>It's more about code complexity than performance. down_interruptible()
>means that you must handle failures - double check that you free all
>temporary allocations, decrease all reference counts (make the reference
>counts atomic_t), etc.
All considered. rpldev.c only has 4 occurrences of down_interruptible, all
which are near the start of the function body. There's nothing to deallocate at
the time down_interruptible() is due ;-)
Jan Engelhardt
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