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From: George Anzinger <george@mvista.com>
To: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
	Zwane Mwaikambo <zwane@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>,
	dipankar@in.ibm.com, ganzinger@mvista.com,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: RCU question
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 21:22:13 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41BD2705.5080809@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41BCC8F8.3030102@colorfullife.com>

Manfred Spraul wrote:
> George Anzinger wrote:
> 
>>
>> The "normal" idle loop just looks at the need_resched flag and goes 
>> right back to the hlt,
> 
> 
> That's the problem: If a the tasklet does a wakeup then the reschedule 
> is delayed until the next interrupt. 

Not so.  On the interrupt that runs the tasklet, on the way out via entry.S, the 
need_resched flag is checked and acted on.  Thus the task switch is done prio to 
getting back to the hlt.

> Testing need_resched and executing 
> hlt must be atomic, but it isn't - NMIs break the atomicity.

Actually this is not required, especially if preemption is turned on.

> Not a big deal, except if someone implements a tickless kernel. 

Well, it is not tickless, but VST that I am working on :).  The notion is to 
turn off the ticks when in idle and there are not time events in the list.

I think
> we can ignore it for now [or was the thread started by someone who 
> want's to disable the hardware timer when the system is really idle?]

Yep, me!  But still, I keep a timer around to exit, it is just way more than a 
tick later (depending on what the next entry in the time list needs).
> 

-- 
George Anzinger   george@mvista.com
High-res-timers:  http://sourceforge.net/projects/high-res-timers/


  reply	other threads:[~2004-12-13  5:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-12-09 23:59 RCU question George Anzinger
2004-12-10  4:31 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-12-10 19:42   ` George Anzinger
2004-12-10 20:40     ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-12-10 20:45       ` Lee Revell
2004-12-10 21:02         ` George Anzinger
2004-12-10 22:58           ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-12-11  2:22             ` George Anzinger
2004-12-11  2:45               ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-12-11  3:29                 ` George Anzinger
2004-12-11 14:52                   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-12-11 16:32                     ` Manfred Spraul
2004-12-11 16:52                       ` George Anzinger
2004-12-12  2:53                         ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-12-12  8:59                           ` Manfred Spraul
2004-12-12  9:37                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-12 10:22                               ` Manfred Spraul
2004-12-12 12:15                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-14 21:40                                   ` Lee Revell
2004-12-14 22:23                                     ` [patch, 2.6.10-rc3] safe_hlt() & NMIs Ingo Molnar
2004-12-14 22:47                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-14 23:09                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-15  8:52                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-15 15:44                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-15 16:35                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-16  0:37                                           ` Alan Cox
2004-12-16  1:58                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-16 14:51                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-16 15:08                                                 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2004-12-16 15:11                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-16 15:42                                                     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2004-12-16 15:54                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-16  2:10                                             ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-12-16 13:26                                               ` Alan Cox
2004-12-14 23:41                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-14 23:00                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-15  5:04                                         ` Andi Kleen
2004-12-15  6:27                                       ` Avi Kivity
2004-12-15  8:51                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-12-12 16:51                                 ` RCU question George Anzinger
2004-12-12 22:40                                   ` Manfred Spraul
2004-12-13  5:22                                     ` George Anzinger [this message]
2004-12-12 16:26                             ` Zwane Mwaikambo

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