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From: Brian Gerst <bgerst@didntduck.org>
To: Joseph Seigh <jseigh_02@xemaps.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: What does atomic_read actually do?
Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 15:47:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41C4977C.2070906@didntduck.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <opsi7o5nqfs29e3l@grunion>

Joseph Seigh wrote:
> It doesn't do anything that would actually guarantee that the fetch from
> memory would be atomic as far as I can see, at least in the x86 version.
> The C standard has nothing to say about atomicity w.r.t. multithreading or
> multiprocessing.  Is this a gcc compiler thing?  If so, does gcc guarantee
> that it will fetch aligned ints with a single instruction on all platforms
> or just x86?   And what's with volatile since if the C standard implies
> nothing about multithreading then it follows that volatile has no meaning
> with respect to multithreading either?  Also a gcc thing?  Are volatile
> semantics well defined enough that you can use it to make the compiler
> synchronize memory state as far as it is concerned?
> 
> Joe Seigh

For x86, the processor guarantees atomicity for simple aligned reads or 
writes.  Read-modify-write instructions need a lock prefix in order to 
become atomic.  The volatile is there so gcc doesn't miss the value 
changing from within an interrupt.

--
				Brian Gerst

      parent reply	other threads:[~2004-12-18 20:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-12-18 16:23 What does atomic_read actually do? Joseph Seigh
2004-12-18 17:11 ` Paolo Ornati
2004-12-18 18:14   ` Joseph Seigh
2004-12-18 18:34 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-12-18 19:20   ` Joseph Seigh
2004-12-18 19:39     ` Joe Korty
2004-12-18 19:54     ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-12-18 20:43       ` Joseph Seigh
2004-12-18 21:03         ` Brian Gerst
2004-12-19 22:21         ` Robert Love
2004-12-19 23:50           ` Joseph Seigh
2004-12-20 11:51             ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-12-20 12:52             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-20 20:51               ` Joseph Seigh
2004-12-18 20:47 ` Brian Gerst [this message]

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