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From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	lista4@comhem.se, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mr@ramendik.ru,
	riel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: 2.6.10-rc3: kswapd eats CPU on start of memory-eating task
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:03:57 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41C6876D.7070702@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41C682F1.20200@yahoo.com.au>

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Nick Piggin wrote:
> Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
>> Voluspa <lista4@comhem.se> wrote:
>>
>>> Would be nice though if someone else could verify...
>>
>>
>>
>> Well I'd love to, but afaik the only workloads which we currently know of
>> involve complex userspace apps which I have no experience running.
>>
>> Did anyone come up with a simple step-by-step procedure for 
>> reproducing the
>> problem?  It would be good if someone could do this, because I don't 
>> think
>> we understand the root cause yet?
>>
> 
> I admit to generally being in the same boat as you with respect to
> running complex userspace apps.
> 
> However, based on this and other scattered reports, I'd say it seems
> quite likely that token based thrashing control is the culprit. Based
> on the cost/benefit, I wonder if we should disable TBTC by default for
> 2.6.10, rather than trying to fix it, and try again for 2.6.11?
> 
> Rik? Andrew?
> 
> Also, it would be nice to have a sysctl to *completely* disable TBTC,
> that would make testing easier.

Logistically what makes sense is if a timeout of 0 is used as a test 
that completely disables it (avoids another sysctl too). In time for 
2.6.10 we should disable it by default until the regressions are better 
understood. Tuning it into a useful "on" position can happen later and I 
suspect requires more code.

Con

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-12-20  8:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-12-20  6:51 2.6.10-rc3: kswapd eats CPU on start of memory-eating task Voluspa
2004-12-20  7:12 ` Andrew Morton
2004-12-20  7:44   ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-20  8:03     ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2004-12-20  8:58       ` Con Kolivas
2004-12-20 12:55         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-20 12:06     ` Ed Tomlinson
2004-12-20 12:29       ` Con Kolivas
2004-12-20 17:49     ` Hideo AOKI
2004-12-20 23:51       ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-20  9:07   ` mr
2004-12-20 15:06     ` Rik van Riel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-12-23  0:26 Zou, Nanhai
2004-12-23 13:26 ` Rik van Riel
2004-12-23 13:28   ` Rik van Riel
2004-12-22  8:45 Zou, Nanhai
2004-12-22 14:23 ` Rik van Riel
2004-12-20 12:59 Voluspa
2004-12-21  1:46 ` Mikhail Ramendik
2004-12-20  9:22 Zou, Nanhai
2004-12-20 15:08 ` Rik van Riel
2004-12-19 23:12 Voluspa
2004-12-19 22:40 Voluspa
2004-12-19 22:56 ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-19 23:08   ` Mikhail Ramendik
2004-12-19 23:57   ` Andrew Morton
2004-12-20  0:03     ` Mikhail Ramendik
2004-12-20  3:02       ` Con Kolivas
2004-12-20  3:21         ` Rik van Riel
2004-12-20  4:13           ` Con Kolivas
2004-12-20  4:18             ` Rik van Riel
2004-12-20  4:21               ` Con Kolivas
2004-12-20  4:33           ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-20  7:07             ` Andrew Morton
2004-12-19 14:08 Voluspa
2004-12-17 10:45 Voluspa
2004-12-18 23:02 ` Con Kolivas
2004-12-15 22:49 Voluspa
2004-12-16  8:03 ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-16  8:14   ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-15 14:02 Voluspa
2004-12-17  0:41 ` Andrew Morton
2004-12-14  7:24 Voluspa
2004-12-12 14:28 Mikhail Ramendik
2004-12-14  0:51 ` Nick Piggin
2004-12-14  2:28   ` Mikhail Ramendik

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