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From: Pjotr Kourzanov <peter.kourzanov@xs4all.nl>
To: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: ioctl assignment strategy?
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:48:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41C756CA.5080504@xs4all.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41C70DF2.80101@nortelnetworks.com>

Chris Friesen wrote:
> Greg KH wrote:
> 
>> Rethink the way you want to control your device.  Seriously, a lot of
>> ioctls can be broken down into single device files, single sysfs files,
>> or other such things (a whole new fs as a last resort too.)
> 
> 
> Actually, my particular case is likely not a good example.  We've got a 
> misc char driver giving access to a lot of miscellaneous features we've 
> added to the kernel,.  We originally (a few years back) used new 
> syscalls, but then we started supporting a bunch more arches, and having 
> to patch all of them just to add syscall numbers sucked.
> 
> Some of it could easily be moved to /proc or /sys, but if you do it that 
> way, how do you handle returning unusual error values?  Other stuff 
> involves multiple stages of registration, then getting handles returned, 
> and doing new calls with those handles.  I don't see how this would tie 
> nicely into the read/write paradigm.

   /That/ is exactly what FS API is good for: returning error values is 
done via read(/sys/mystuff/errno,&err,4), getting handles is done via 
open(/sys/mystuff/mycomp) and doing new calls is just calling FS API 
with the *file* handle. Registration, depending on your definition of it 
can be viewed as a link(/sys/mystuff/object,/sys/mystuff/subsystem) or 
as a write(/sys/mystuff/subsystem/registered,"object"). Take a peek into 
Plan9 from Bell Labs for inspiration...

> 
> What's the big problem with ioctls anyways?  I mean, in a closed 
> environment where I'm writing both the userspace and the kernelspace 
> side of things.
> 
> Chris
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  reply	other threads:[~2004-12-20 22:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-12-14 23:31 ioctl assignment strategy? Al Hooton
2004-12-15  0:46 ` Greg KH
2004-12-15 14:53   ` Chris Friesen
2004-12-17 23:48     ` Greg KH
2004-12-20 17:37       ` Chris Friesen
2004-12-20 22:48         ` Pjotr Kourzanov [this message]
2004-12-21  0:32           ` Alan Cox
2004-12-21  2:06             ` Lee Revell
2004-12-21 12:51             ` Olivier Galibert
2004-12-21 17:24         ` Greg KH
2004-12-22 17:16   ` Al Hooton

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