From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261707AbUL3TvD (ORCPT ); Thu, 30 Dec 2004 14:51:03 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261705AbUL3TvD (ORCPT ); Thu, 30 Dec 2004 14:51:03 -0500 Received: from hobbit.corpit.ru ([81.13.94.6]:63574 "EHLO hobbit.corpit.ru") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261704AbUL3Tu6 (ORCPT ); Thu, 30 Dec 2004 14:50:58 -0500 Message-ID: <41D45C1F.5030307@tls.msk.ru> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 22:50:55 +0300 From: Michael Tokarev User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041124) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Peter T. Breuer" Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dm-crypt@saout.de Subject: Re: PROBLEM: Kernel 2.6.10 crashing repeatedly and hard References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Peter T. Breuer wrote: > In gmane.linux.raid Georg C. F. Greve wrote: > > Yes, well, don't put the journal on the raid partition. Put it > elsewhere (anyway, journalling and raid do not mix, as write ordering > is not - deliberately - preserved in raid, as far as I can tell). This is a sort of a nonsense, really. Both claims, it seems. I can't say for sure whenever write ordering is preserved by raid -- it should, and if it isn't, it's a bug and should be fixed. Nothing else is wrong with placing journal into raid (the same as the filesystem in question). Suggesting to remove journal just isn't fair: the journal is here for a reason. And, finally, the kernel should not crash. If something like this is unsupported, it should refuse to do so, instead of crashing randomly. /mjt