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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.5isms
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 11:49:31 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41D8969B.2030701@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1104656340.4185.5.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>

Arjan van de Ven wrote:
>>I'm curious about a couple of points though. First, is that it is basically
>>just adding a cache colouring to the stack, right? In that case why do only
>>older HT CPUs have bad performance without it? And wouldn't it possibly make
>>even non HT CPUs possibly slightly more efficient WRT caching the stacks of
>>multiple processes?
> 
> 
> it's a win on more than older HT cpus. It's just that those suffer it
> the most... (since there you have 2 "cpus" share the cache, meaning you
> get double the aliasing)
> 
> 
> 
>>Second, on what workloads does performance suffer, can you remember? I wonder
>>if natural variations in the stack pointer as the program runs would mitigate
>>the effect of this on all but micro benchmarks?
> 
> 
> one of the problem cases I remember is network daemons all waiting in
> accept() for connections. All from the same codepath basically.
> Randomizing the stackpointer is a gain for that on all cpus that have
> finite affinity on their caches.
> 

I see. Yes, that would be a prime candidate.

> 
> 
>>But even if that were so so, it seems simple enough that I don't have any
>>real problem with keeping it of course.
> 
> 
> The reason my patch does it much more is that it makes it a step harder
> to write exploits for stack buffer overflows. 
> 
> 

Oh yeah I realised that. I just meant specifically the code to do arch
specific stack colouring.

Thanks
Nick

  reply	other threads:[~2005-01-03  0:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-12-31 23:06 2.5isms Justin Pryzby
2005-01-01  2:34 ` 2.5isms Nick Piggin
2005-01-01  8:40   ` 2.5isms Arjan van de Ven
2005-01-01  9:13   ` 2.5isms Andi Kleen
2005-01-02  0:43     ` 2.5isms Nick Piggin
2005-01-02  8:58       ` 2.5isms Arjan van de Ven
2005-01-03  0:49         ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2005-01-02 12:04       ` 2.5isms Andi Kleen
2005-01-03  0:44         ` 2.5isms Nick Piggin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-07-03 20:01 "Will be removed in 2.4" Justin Pryzby
2003-12-30 21:30 ` 2.5isms Justin Pryzby
2004-01-03 15:18   ` 2.5isms Pavel Machek
2004-01-07  7:28   ` 2.5isms Justin Pryzby
2004-03-29 15:40   ` 2.5isms Pavel Machek

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