From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Nicholas Miell <nmiell@comcast.net>
Cc: tridge@samba.org, Michael B Allen <mba2000@ioplex.com>,
sfrench@samba.org, linux-ntfs-dev@lists.sourceforge.net,
samba-technical@lists.samba.org, aia21@cantab.net,
hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: FAT, NTFS, CIFS and DOS attributes
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 17:48:43 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <41D9F5FB.7080204@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1104802319.3604.71.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Nicholas Miell wrote:
>
> The design isn't broken, you're just missing an important detail of what
> the system namespace entails:
>
> xattrs in the system namespace have a format defined by the kernel and
> (more importantly -- this is the important detail) modify kernel
> behavior.
>
> If the xattr namespace was flat, I would have no way of knowing whether
> or not the kernel will set the Archived bit in fatattrs (or DosAttrib)
> xattr when I write to a file that has that xattr or whether or not the
> kernel will choose to enforce the ACL I store in the posix_acl_access
> xattr.
>
> With the system namespace, I can rely on the fact that xattrs in that
> namespace actually have a meaning and are in sync with what the kernel
> believes to be true about the file.
>
What you're neglecting is that there is a LARGE class of metadata where
the important thing is that you store them; if you don't know what they
are you merely ignore them and keep them as-is.
There is no place for those in the current design.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-01-04 1:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-01-03 22:24 FAT, NTFS, CIFS and DOS attributes H. Peter Anvin
2005-01-03 23:26 ` Michael B Allen
2005-01-03 23:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-01-03 23:48 ` Michael B Allen
2005-01-03 23:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-01-04 0:18 ` tridge
2005-01-04 0:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-01-04 0:39 ` tridge
2005-01-04 0:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-01-04 1:12 ` tridge
2005-01-04 1:31 ` Nicholas Miell
2005-01-04 1:48 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2005-01-04 2:05 ` Nicholas Miell
2005-01-04 22:24 ` [Linux-NTFS-Dev] " Szakacsits Szabolcs
2005-01-04 1:21 ` tridge
2005-01-04 1:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-01-03 23:28 ` Nicholas Miell
2005-01-04 0:05 ` tridge
2005-01-04 0:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-01-04 0:58 ` tridge
2005-01-04 1:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-01-04 1:36 ` tridge
2005-01-04 1:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-01-04 2:05 ` tridge
2005-01-04 2:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-01-04 2:23 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-01-04 2:49 ` tridge
2005-01-04 3:39 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-01-04 3:56 ` tridge
2005-01-04 4:50 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-01-04 4:05 ` Michael B Allen
2005-01-04 10:34 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-01-04 11:08 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-01-04 22:18 ` Nicholas Miell
2005-01-04 23:04 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-01-05 0:48 ` Nicholas Miell
2005-01-05 1:12 ` Nicholas Miell
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