From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
riel@redhat.com, marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][5/?] count writeback pages in nr_scanned
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 16:36:19 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <41DCCE53.4000906@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050106052507.GR4597@dualathlon.random>
Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 04:19:36PM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote:
>
>>This is practically what blk_congestion_wait does when the queue
>>isn't congested though, isn't it?
>
>
> The fundamental difference that makes it reliable is that:
>
> 1) only the I/O we're throttling against will be considered for the
> wakeup event, which means only clearing PG_writeback will be
> considered eligible for wakeup
> Currently _all_ unrelated write I/O was considered eligible
> for wakeup events and that could cause spurious oom kills.
I'm not entirely convinced. In Rik's case it didn't matter, because
all his writeout was in the same zone that reclaim was happening
against (ZONE_NORMAL), so in that case, PG_writeback throttling
will do exactly the same thing as blk_congestion_wait.
I do like your PG_writeback throttling idea for the other reason
that it should behave better on NUMA systems with lots of zones
and lots of disks.
> 2) we won't need unreliable anti-deadlock timeouts anymore
>
Well I think you do need *something*. If you wake up each time a
single page (or request) has completed, you only complete what,
12 (DEF_PRIORITY) requests before going OOM? In the worst possible
case scenario, which looks like what Rik's running into.
Nick
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-01-06 5:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-01-03 17:25 [PATCH][5/?] count writeback pages in nr_scanned Rik van Riel
2005-01-05 10:08 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-05 18:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-05 18:50 ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-05 17:49 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-01-05 21:44 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-05 20:32 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-01-05 23:51 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 1:27 ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-06 1:33 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 1:37 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 1:40 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 1:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 1:36 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 3:42 ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-06 3:50 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 4:26 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 4:35 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 4:47 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 4:55 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 5:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 8:06 ` Jens Axboe
2005-01-06 8:16 ` memory barrier in ll_rw_blk.c (was Re: [PATCH][5/?] count writeback pages in nr_scanned) Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 8:32 ` Jens Axboe
2005-01-06 8:53 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 12:00 ` Jens Axboe
2005-01-06 4:59 ` [PATCH][5/?] count writeback pages in nr_scanned Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 5:05 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 5:17 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 5:19 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 5:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 5:36 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2005-01-06 5:44 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 5:37 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 5:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 13:28 ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-06 5:32 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 5:46 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 5:59 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 6:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 5:06 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 5:21 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-05 23:26 ` Andrew Morton
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