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From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: "Jack O'Quin" <joq@io.com>
Cc: linux <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	rlrevell@joe-job.com, paul@linuxaudiosystems.com,
	CK Kernel <ck@vds.kolivas.org>, Rui Nuno Capela <rncbc@rncbc.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] sched: Isochronous class for unprivileged soft rt scheduling
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:07:37 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41EEF649.4070705@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <873bwxpckv.fsf@sulphur.joq.us>

Jack O'Quin wrote:
> Try again with JACK 0.99.48.  It's in CVS now, but you probably need
> this tarball to get around the dreaded SourceForge anon CVS lag...
> 
>    http://www.joq.us/jack/tarballs/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.48.tar.gz

Thanks it finally ran to completion. By the way the patch you sent with 
the test suite did not apply so I had to do it manually (booraroom..)

> The results I get with these versions are a lot more stable.  But,
> there are still some puzzles about the scheduling.  Do you distinguish
> different SCHED_ISO priorities?  

It was not clear whether that would be required or not. This is why 
testing is so critical because if you are having latency issues it 
wouldn't be a problem of getting cpu time since your cpu usage is well 
below the 70% limit.

> 
> JACK runs with three different SCHED_FIFO priorities:
> 
>   (1) The main jackd audio thread uses the -P parameter.  The JACK
>   default is 10, but Rui's script sets it with -P60.  I don't think
>   the absolute value matters, but the value relative to the other JACK
>   realtime threads probably does.
> 
>   (2) The clients' process threads run at a priority one less (59).
> 
>   (3) The watchdog timer thread runs at a priority 10 greater (70).
> 
>   (4) LinuxThreads creates a manager thread in each process running
>   one level higher than the highest user realtime thread priority.

Since I (finally) have it running at this end at last I'll do some 
benchmarking of my own to see how (lack of) priorities affects 
SCHED_ISO. If it is inadequate, it wont be too difficult to add them to 
the design. The problem with priorities is that once you go over the cpu 
limit everyone suffers equally; but that's a failsafe that you shouldn't 
actually hit in normal usage so it probably doesn't matter... Hmm come 
to think of it, it probably _is_ a good idea to implement priority 
support afterall.

Cheers,
Con

  reply	other threads:[~2005-01-20  0:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-18 13:01 [PATCH][RFC] sched: Isochronous class for unprivileged soft rt scheduling Con Kolivas
2005-01-18 14:53 ` Con Kolivas
2005-01-18 15:45 ` [ck] " Cal
2005-01-18 15:53   ` Con Kolivas
2005-01-18 16:23     ` Jack O'Quin
2005-01-18 16:17   ` Jack O'Quin
2005-01-19  2:02     ` Lee Revell
2005-01-19  2:08       ` Con Kolivas
2005-01-19  5:26 ` utz
2005-01-19  5:31   ` Con Kolivas
2005-01-19 14:01   ` Con Kolivas
2005-01-19  6:54 ` Jack O'Quin
2005-01-19  7:56   ` Con Kolivas
2005-01-19 14:27     ` Jack O'Quin
2005-01-19  9:33   ` Con Kolivas
2005-01-19 17:12     ` Jack O'Quin
2005-01-20  0:07       ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2005-01-20  1:21         ` Jack O'Quin

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