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From: Ric Wheeler <ric@emc.com>
To: Jakob Oestergaard <jakob@unthought.net>
Cc: Kiniger <karl.kiniger@med.ge.com>,
	Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: raid 1 - automatic 'repair' possible?
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:39:58 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41FA6ADE.4010209@emc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050119115519.GY347@unthought.net>

Having looked at a lot of disks, I think that it is definitely worth 
forcing a write to try and invoke the remap.  With large drives, you 
usually several bad sectors in the normal case (drive vendors allocate 
up to a couple thousand spare sectors just for remapping).

Depending on the type of drive error, the act of writing is likely to 
clean the questionable sector and leave you with a perfectly fine disk.

Ric

Jakob Oestergaard wrote:

>On Wed, Jan 19, 2005 at 11:48:52AM +0100, Kiniger wrote:
>...
>  
>
>>some random thoughts:
>>
>>nowadays hardware sector sizes are much bigger than 512 bytes
>>    
>>
>
>No :)
>
>  
>
>>and
>>the read error may affect some sectors +- the sector which actually
>>returned the error.
>>    
>>
>
>That's right
>
>  
>
>>to keep the handling in userspace as much as possible: 
>>
>>the real problem is the long resync time. therefore it would
>>be sufficient to have a concept of "defective areas" per partition
>>and drive (a few of them, perhaps four or so , would be enough) 
>>which will be excluded from reads/writes and some means to
>>re-synchronize these "defective areas" from the good counterparts
>>of the other disk. This would avoid having the whole partition being
>>marked as defective.
>>    
>>
>
>I wonder if it's really worth it.
>
>The original idea has some merit I think - but what you're suggesting
>here is almost "bad block remapping" with transparent recovery and user
>space policy agents etc. etc.
>
>If a drive has problems reading the platter, it can usually be corrected
>by overwriting the given sector (either the drive can actually overwrite
>the sector in place, or it will re-allocate it with severe read
>performance penalties following). But there's a reason why that sector
>went bad, and you realy want to get the disk replaced.
>
>I think the current policy of marking the disk as failed when it has
>failed is sensible.
>
>Just my 0.02 Euro
>
>  
>

  reply	other threads:[~2005-01-28 16:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-18 21:18 raid 1 - automatic 'repair' possible? Kiniger, Karl (GE Healthcare)
2005-01-18 21:46 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-01-19 10:48   ` Kiniger
2005-01-19 11:55     ` Jakob Oestergaard
2005-01-28 16:39       ` Ric Wheeler [this message]
2005-01-31 16:01         ` Alan Cox

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