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From: Jaco Kroon <jaco@kroon.co.za>
To: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>
Cc: Andries Brouwer <aebr@win.tue.nl>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	sebekpi@poczta.onet.pl, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: i8042 access timings
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 21:59:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41FBEB19.2040105@kroon.co.za> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050128183955.GA2640@ucw.cz>

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Vojtech Pavlik wrote:
>>>What I believe is happening is that we're talking to SMM emulation of
>>>the i8042, which doesn't have a clue about these commands, while the
>>>underlying real hardware implementation does. And because of that they
>>>disagree on what should happen when the command is issued, and since the
>>>SMM emulation lazily synchronizes with the real HW, we only get the data
>>>back with the next command.

This makes sense in a weird kind of way.

>>>I still don't have an explanation why both 'usb-handoff' and 'acpi=off'
>>>help, I'd expect only the first to, but it might be related to the SCI
>>>interrupt routing which isn't done when 'acpi=off'. Just a wild guess.

SCI interrupt routing?  I have tried with pci=routeirq and that hasn't 
helped either.  IRQ balancing perhaps?

> I don't like the interrupt message, I'll check why it's enabled so
> early. It may have a good reason to, as well. Other than that, it looks
> very much OK.

That was with usb-handoff.  It also resulted in the black screen of 
bios-death upon reboot though :).

>>So as with acpi=off, we get a correct return.  Now that usb is 
>>mentioned, I think either myself or Sebastian has mentioned that the 
>>keyboard does not work unless USB1.1 support is compiled in.  Another 
>>clue possibly?
> 
> 
> Compiling USB 1.1 support does the very same thing as specifying
> usb-handoff on the command like - tells the BIOS to keep its hands off
> the USB _and_ PS/2 controllers.

I'm missing something, I have USB1.1 compiled in, then why does the 
touchpad not work if it does the very same thing as usb-handoff?

>>Another question - would it be usefull at all to see what happens if the 
>>AUX_LOOP test is never performed but only AUX_TEST?  Or does AUX_TEST 
>>rely on the fact that AUX_LOOP must first fail/timeout somehow?
> No. You can use AUX_TEST event before AUX_LOOP. But I expect it to fail
> similarly when BIOS is active.

That is correct.  It fails with timeout.  This for me confirms the fact 
that it is responding one command too late. aka, we send a command, it 
times out, we send another, it sends the result of the first.

Right, any new (or variations of existing ones) theories that I can try 
out to make this touchpad work correctly?  I can simply hack out the 
test for the touchpad but that doesn't solve the problem for others.

Jaco
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-01-29 19:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200501260040.46288.sebekpi@poczta.onet.pl>
2005-01-27  6:23 ` i8042 access timings Jaco Kroon
2005-01-27 10:25   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-01-27 11:12     ` Sebastian Piechocki
2005-01-27 11:31       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-01-27 17:33         ` Jaco Kroon
2005-01-27 18:09   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-01-27 20:29     ` Andries Brouwer
2005-01-27 20:41       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-27 23:11         ` Andries Brouwer
2005-01-28 13:17       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-01-28 14:20         ` Jaco Kroon
2005-01-28 18:39           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-01-29 19:59             ` Jaco Kroon [this message]
2005-01-29 23:21               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-29 20:02             ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-01-27 20:51     ` Jaco Kroon
2005-01-27 21:17       ` Linus Torvalds
2005-01-27 22:12         ` Jaco Kroon
2005-01-27 22:36           ` Linus Torvalds
2005-01-27 23:40             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-28  5:52             ` Jaco Kroon
2005-02-04 19:54             ` Bukie Mabayoje
2005-01-28 11:04           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-01-27 20:23   ` Andries Brouwer
2005-01-25  7:41 Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-25 10:51 ` Andries Brouwer
2005-01-25 19:17   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-25 19:25     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-01-25 19:41       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-25 19:46     ` Andries Brouwer
2005-01-25 20:37       ` Lee Revell
2005-01-27 15:14         ` Alan Cox
2005-01-27 16:24           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-01-27 16:34           ` Bill Rugolsky Jr.
2005-01-27 16:37             ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-02-13  0:16               ` Bill Rugolsky Jr.
2005-02-13  8:22                 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-02-13 16:17                   ` Bill Rugolsky Jr.
2005-01-27 17:45           ` Andries Brouwer
2005-01-28 14:55             ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-01-25 12:44 ` Alan Cox
2005-01-25 12:44 ` Alan Cox
2005-01-26 15:43 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-01-26 16:36   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-26 17:05     ` linux-os
2005-01-26 18:30       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-27 10:19     ` Vojtech Pavlik

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