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From: Brian King <brking@us.ibm.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] pci: Block config access during BIST (resend)
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:01:33 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41FFD20D.4030105@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050201174758.GE10088@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk>

Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 11:35:05AM -0600, Brian King wrote:
> 
>>>If we've done a write to config space while the adapter was blocked,
>>>shouldn't we replay those accesses at this point?
>>
>>I did not think that was necessary.
> 
> 
> We have to do *something*.  We can't just throw away writes.
> 
> I see a few options:
> 
>  - Log all pending writes to config space and replay the log when the
>    device is unblocked.

This would need to be dynamic in size, as a device could be blocked for 
a long time. In the scenario that this is used for power management and 
the device could be blocked for a long time, its unclear that we would 
still want all the writes accumulated to be written out when the device 
becomes unblocked.

>  - Fail writes to config space while the device is blocked.

This would be nice and simple. I know Alan had some issue with returning 
failures on reads when blocked.

Alan - do you have the same issue on writes?

>  - Write to the saved config space and then blat the saved config space
>    back to the device upon unblocking.

Would also be pretty simple to do and seems a little safer than 
potentially assaulting the recently unblocked device with who knows what 
values. The only problem I see with this is that we could end up 
returning strange values on cached reads if the writes update the cache. 
If userspace wrote to a read only register, we would end up returning 
that value on the read, which may not be the right thing to do.

> Any other ideas?

We could go back to Alan's idea of putting userspace reads/writes to 
sleep when the device is blocked, although this has additional 
complications as well...

> BTW, you know things like XFree86 go completely around the kernel's PCI
> accessors and poke at config space directly?

The purpose of this API is to provide a way for the kernel to stop 
userspace from accessing PCI devices when the results of doing so would 
be catastrophic, such as a PCI bus error. The only users of this API so 
far are device drivers running BIST on an adapter (which shouldn't 
happen on a video card AFAIK) and for PPC power management (Ben - will 
this be an issue for you?)

-- 
Brian King
eServer Storage I/O
IBM Linux Technology Center

  reply	other threads:[~2005-02-01 19:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-10 14:49 [PATCH 1/1] pci: Block config access during BIST (resend) brking
2005-01-10 16:10 ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-10 16:25   ` Brian King
2005-01-10 16:29     ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-10 22:57       ` Brian King
2005-01-11 14:37         ` Alan Cox
2005-01-11 17:33           ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-11 22:17             ` Brian King
2005-01-13 15:36               ` Alan Cox
2005-01-13 15:35             ` Alan Cox
2005-01-13 18:03               ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-13 18:46                 ` Alan Cox
2005-01-13 20:23                   ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-13 19:44                     ` Alan Cox
2005-01-13 21:50                       ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-15  0:33                         ` Alan Cox
2005-01-15  1:44                           ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-15  1:01                             ` Alan Cox
2005-01-15  6:20                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-01-16  0:58                                 ` Alan Cox
2005-01-16  4:01                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-01-16  4:48                                     ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-16 20:53                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-01-16 22:07                                         ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-16 22:14                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-01-16 21:10                                       ` Alan Cox
2005-01-18 15:14                     ` Brian King
2005-01-18 23:31                       ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-18 23:36                         ` Brian King
2005-01-19 22:40                       ` Alan Cox
2005-01-26 16:34                         ` Brian King
2005-01-26 22:10                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-01-27 15:53                             ` Alan Cox
2005-01-27 18:44                               ` Brian King
2005-01-27 23:15                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-01-28 14:35                               ` Brian King
2005-02-01  7:27                                 ` Greg KH
2005-02-01 15:12                                   ` Brian King
2005-02-01 15:44                                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-02-01 17:35                                       ` Brian King
2005-02-01 17:47                                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-02-01 19:01                                           ` Brian King [this message]
2005-02-01 23:00                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-02-02 15:33                                           ` Brian King
2005-02-08 20:08                                             ` Greg KH
2005-06-21 16:08                                               ` Brian King
2005-08-23 15:11                                                 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Brian King
2005-08-23 15:14                                                   ` [PATCH 2/2] ipr: " Brian King
2005-09-01 23:03                                                   ` [PATCH 1/2] pci: " Andrew Morton
2005-09-02 23:56                                                     ` Brian King
2005-09-02 22:43                                                       ` Grant Grundler
2005-09-02 23:11                                                         ` Paul Mackerras
2005-09-03  0:08                                                           ` Grant Grundler
2005-09-03 23:37                                                             ` Brian King
2005-09-03 19:39                                                               ` Grant Grundler
2005-09-05 18:31                                                                 ` Brian King
2005-09-06  4:48                                                                   ` Grant Grundler
2005-09-06 14:28                                                                     ` Brian King
2005-09-07  5:49                                                                 ` Paul Mackerras
2005-09-07 14:58                                                                   ` Grant Grundler
2005-09-07 22:39                                                                     ` Paul Mackerras
2005-09-08  1:21                                                                       ` Grant Grundler
2005-09-08  3:05                                                                         ` Brian King
2005-09-08  4:08                                                                           ` Grant Grundler
2005-02-01 18:58                                       ` [PATCH 1/1] " Greg KH
2005-02-01 23:07                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-02-01 22:58                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-01-10 19:23   ` Alan Cox
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-12-14 19:41 brking

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