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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: avoiding pci_disable_device()...
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:51:26 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4211013E.6@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050214190619.GA9241@kroah.com>

Greg KH wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 08:42:55PM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> 
>>Currently, in almost every PCI driver, if pci_request_regions() fails -- 
>>indicating another driver is using the hardware -- then 
>>pci_disable_device() is called on the error path, disabling a device 
>>that another driver is using
>>
>>To call this "rather rude" is an understatement :)
>>
>>Fortunately, the ugliness is mitigated in large part by the PCI layer 
>>helping to make sure that no two drivers bind to the same PCI device. 
>>Thus, in the vast majority of cases, pci_request_regions() -should- be 
>>guaranteed to succeed.
>>
>>However, there are oddball cases like mixed PCI/ISA devices (hello IDE) 
>>or cases where a driver refers a pci_dev other than the primary, where 
>>pci_request_regions() and request_regions() still matter.
> 
> 
> But this is a very small subset of pci devices, correct?

No.  You also need to consider situations such as out-of-tree drivers 
for the same hardware (might not use PCI API), and situations where you 
have peer devices discovered and used (PCI API doesn't have "hey, <this> 
device is associated with <current driver>, too" capability)


>>As a result, I have committed the attached patch to libata-2.6.  In many 
>>cases, it is a "semantic fix", addressing the case
>>
>>	* pci_request_regions() indicates hardware is in use
>>	* we rudely disable the in-use hardware
>>
>>that would not occur in practice.
>>
>>But better safe than sorry.  Code cuts cut-n-pasted all over the place.
>>
>>I'm hoping one or two things will happen now:
>>* janitors fix up the other PCI drivers along these lines
>>* improve the PCI API so that pci_request_regions() is axiomatic
> 
> 
> Do you have any suggestions for how to do this?

I'm glad you asked ;-)  As the author of pci_disable_device() and 
pci_request_regions(), I recognized their inadequacy almost immediately.

There are some fundamental flaws in the API that need correcting:

* pci_disable_device() should perform exactly the opposite of 
pci_enable_device(), no more, no less.   It should NOT unconditionally 
disable the device, but instead restore the hardware to the state it was 
in prior to pci_enable_device().

* pci_request_regions() should be axiomatic.  By that I mean, 
pci_enable_device() should
	(a) handle pci_request_regions() completely
	(b) fail if regions are not available

* pci_enable_device() may touch the hardware when it should not.  In an 
ideal world, pci_enable_device() would
	* assign resources to device, if necessary
	* request_resource()s [aka pci_request_regions()]
	* enable device by setting bits in PCI_COMMAND, etc.
but since the request-resource step is assumed to occur after 
pci_enable_device() returns to the driver, this is impossible.


The solution?  I am still thinking.  My gut feeling is that we want a 
slightly higher level PCI API for drivers.  Drivers pass in an 'info' 
structure to pci_up().  pci_up() enables the device, requests resources 
(not just irq), maps resources as necessary, enables irqs and/or MSI as 
necessary, and similar housekeeping.  pci_down() does the precise 
opposite. Essentially, pci_up() is a lib function that kills a ton of 
duplicate code from the vast majority of PCI drivers.


OTOH, Alan's suggestion seems sane and a lot more simple, but doesn't 
address the flaws in the API.

	Jeff



  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-02-14 19:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-14  1:42 avoiding pci_disable_device() Jeff Garzik
2005-02-14 19:06 ` Greg KH
2005-02-14 18:08   ` Alan Cox
2005-02-14 19:24   ` Takashi Iwai
2005-02-14 19:34     ` Greg KH
2005-02-14 19:50       ` Takashi Iwai
2005-02-14 19:54         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-02-14 19:51   ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2005-02-14 19:58     ` Roland Dreier
2005-02-14 20:00       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-02-14 21:42         ` Roland Dreier
2005-02-14 22:25           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-02-14 22:46             ` Roland Dreier
2005-02-17 23:07               ` Greg KH
2005-02-14 20:02     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-02-15  2:05       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-02-16 11:27         ` Takashi Iwai
2005-02-16 13:44           ` Alan Cox
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-02-14 10:43 Michal Rokos
2005-02-14 11:08 ` Christoph Hellwig

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