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From: Ray Bryant <raybry@sgi.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>
Cc: Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>,
	Ray Bryant <raybry@austin.rr.com>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 2.6.11-rc2-mm2 0/7] mm: manual page migration -- overview
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:49:53 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42113921.7070807@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050214191509.GA56685@muc.de>

Andi Kleen wrote:
>>But how do you use mbind() to change the memory placement for an anonymous
>>private mapping used by a vendor provided executable with mbind()?
> 
> 
> For that you use set_mempolicy.
> 
> -Andi
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Andi,

If all processes are guarenteed to use the NUMA api for memory placement,
then AFAIK one could, in principle, imbed the migration of pages into
the NUMA api as you propose.  The problem is that AFAIK most programs
that we run are not using the NUMA api.  Instead, they are using first-touch
with the knowledge that such pages will be allocated on the node where they
are first referenced.

Since we have to build a migration facility that will migrate jobs that
use both the NUMA API and the first-touch approach, it seems to me the
only plausible soluion is to move the pages via a migration facility
and then if there are NUMA API control structures found associated with
the moved pages to update them to represent the new reality.  Whether
this happens as an automatic side effect of the migration call or it
happens by a issuing a new set_mempolicy() is not clear to me.  I would
prefer to just issue a new set_mempolicy(), but somehow the migration
code will have to figure out where this call needs to be executed (i. e.
which pages have an associated NUMA policy).  [Thus the disclaimer in
the overview note that we have figured all the interaction with
memory policy stuff yet.]

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-02-14 23:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-12  3:25 [RFC 2.6.11-rc2-mm2 0/7] mm: manual page migration -- overview Ray Bryant
2005-02-12  3:25 ` [RFC 2.6.11-rc2-mm2 1/7] mm: manual page migration -- cleanup 1 Ray Bryant
2005-02-12  3:25 ` [RFC 2.6.11-rc2-mm2 2/7] mm: manual page migration -- cleanup 2 Ray Bryant
2005-02-12  3:25 ` [RFC 2.6.11-rc2-mm2 3/7] mm: manual page migration -- cleanup 3 Ray Bryant
2005-02-12  3:26 ` [RFC 2.6.11-rc2-mm2 4/7] mm: manual page migration -- cleanup 4 Ray Bryant
2005-02-12  3:26 ` [RFC 2.6.11-rc2-mm2 5/7] mm: manual page migration -- cleanup 5 Ray Bryant
2005-02-12  3:26 ` [RFC 2.6.11-rc2-mm2 6/7] mm: manual page migration -- add node_map arg to try_to_migrate_pages() Ray Bryant
2005-02-12  3:26 ` [RFC 2.6.11-rc2-mm2 7/7] mm: manual page migration -- sys_page_migrate Ray Bryant
2005-02-12  8:08   ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-12 12:34   ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-02-12 14:48     ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-12 20:51       ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-12 21:04   ` Dave Hansen
2005-02-12 21:44     ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-14 13:52     ` Robin Holt
2005-02-14 18:50       ` Dave Hansen
2005-02-14 22:01         ` Robin Holt
2005-02-14 22:22           ` Dave Hansen
2005-02-15 10:50             ` Robin Holt
2005-02-15 15:38               ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-15 18:39               ` Dave Hansen
2005-02-15 18:54                 ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-15 15:49           ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-15 16:21             ` Robin Holt
2005-02-15 16:35               ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-15 18:59                 ` Robin Holt
2005-02-15 20:54                   ` Dave Hansen
     [not found]                   ` <16914.28795.316835.291470@wombat.chubb.wattle.id.au>
2005-02-15 22:10                     ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-15 22:51                     ` Robin Holt
2005-02-15 23:00                       ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-15 15:40         ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-12 11:17 ` [RFC 2.6.11-rc2-mm2 0/7] mm: manual page migration -- overview Andi Kleen
2005-02-12 12:12   ` Robin Holt
2005-02-14 19:18     ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-15  1:02       ` Steve Longerbeam
2005-02-12 15:54   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-02-12 16:18     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-02-12 21:29     ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-14 16:38       ` Robin Holt
2005-02-14 19:15         ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-14 23:49           ` Ray Bryant [this message]
2005-02-15  3:16             ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-15  9:14               ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-15 15:21                 ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-15  0:29   ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-15 11:05     ` Robin Holt
2005-02-15 17:44       ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-15 11:53     ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-15 12:15       ` Robin Holt
2005-02-15 15:07         ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-15 15:11         ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-15 18:16       ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-15 18:24         ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-15 12:14     ` [RFC 2.6.11-rc2-mm2 0/7] mm: manual page migration -- overview II Andi Kleen
2005-02-15 18:38       ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-15 21:48         ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-15 22:37           ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-16  3:44           ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-17 23:54             ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-18  8:38               ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-18 13:02                 ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-18 16:18                   ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-18 16:20                   ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-18 16:22                   ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-18 16:25                   ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-19  1:01                   ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-20 21:49                     ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-20 22:30                       ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-20 22:35                         ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-21  1:50                           ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-21  7:39                             ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-21  7:29                           ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-21  9:57                             ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-21 12:02                               ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-21  8:42                           ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-21 12:10                             ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-21 17:12                               ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-22 18:03                                 ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-22  6:40                               ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-22 18:01                                 ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-22 18:45                                   ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-22 18:49                                     ` Andi Kleen
2005-02-22 22:04                                   ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-22  6:44                               ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-21  4:20                       ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-18 16:58               ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-18 17:02               ` Ray Bryant
2005-02-18 17:11               ` Ray Bryant

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