From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>
Cc: Christophe Lucas <c.lucas@ifrance.com>,
kernel-janitors@lists.osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Subject: Re: [KJ] [PATCH] drivers/char/watchdog/* : pci_request_regions
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:22:30 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4214EEF6.4030309@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050217190408.GW29917@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk>
Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 01:49:12PM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>
>>Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 04:01:11PM +0100, Christophe Lucas wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>If PCI request regions fails, then someone else is using the
>>>>hardware we wish to use. For that one case, calling
>>>>pci_disable_device() is rather rude.
>>>>See : http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0502.1/1061.html
>>>
>>>
>>>Actually, that isn't necessarily true. If the request_regions call fails,
>>>that can mean there's a resource conflict. If so, leaving the device
>>>enabled is the worst possible thing to do as we'll now have two devices
>>>trying to respond to the same io accesses.
>>
>>Incorrect. If request_region() fails, drivers are coded to _not_ touch
>>the hardware. That's the entire purpose of the whole charade: to avoid
>>having two devices responding to the same io accesses.
>>
>>If your driver is talking to the hardware after request_region() fails,
>>it is BROKEN plain and simple.
>
>
> I don't think you understood my point. Assume we really do have two
> devices in the system with clashing resource settings. Yes, I really
> have seen this happen; it's rare.
>
> While the PCI device is disabled, there is no problem. But then we call
> pci_enable_device(), so now the device is enabled to respond to IO and
> memory resources in its BARs.
>
> At the point we discover this, we need to disable the PCI device again
> -- exactly the opposite behaviour from your case where we need to leave
> the PCI device enabled when we have resource conflicts.
> I think the only way to fix this is have pci_enable_device claim the
> resources for the BARs before enabling the PCI device to respond to the
> resources; that way we leave the enable bits the way they currently are.
> No, this doesn't cure the world's ills, but it does obey "First, do
> no harm". One way it'll fail is if the other driver loads after the PCI
> driver that claims this resource.
Ok, I agree with this, it echoes what I said in another message in this
thread ;-) namely,
* the fact that pci_enable_device() does not claim the resources is a
problem. pci_request_regions() should not be a separate step.
* the fact that pci_disable_device() does not perform the _exact_
opposite of the operations that pci_enable_device() performed is a
problem. pci_disable_device() should not just unconditionally stop the
decoder bits, then exit.
Jeff
prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-02-17 19:35 UTC|newest]
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2005-02-14 15:12 ` [KJ] [PATCH] drivers/char/watchdog/* : pci_request_regions Matthew Wilcox
2005-02-17 18:49 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-02-17 19:04 ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-02-17 19:22 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
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