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From: Tupshin Harper <tupshin@tupshin.com>
To: Patrick McFarland <pmcfarland@downeast.net>
Cc: lm@bitmover.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, darcs-users@darcs.net
Subject: Re: [darcs-users] Re: [BK] upgrade will be needed
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 18:24:53 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <421551F5.5090005@tupshin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200502172105.25677.pmcfarland@downeast.net>

Patrick McFarland wrote:

>On Sunday 13 February 2005 09:08 pm, Larry McVoy wrote:
>  
>
>>Something that unintentionally started a flamewar.
>>    
>>
>
>Well, we just went through another round of 'BK sucks' and 'BK sucks, we need 
>to switch to something else'.
>
>Sans the flamewar, are there any options? CVS and SVN are out because they do 
>not support 'off server' branches (arch and darcs do). Darcs would probably 
>be the best choice because its easy to use, and the darcs team almost has a 
>working linux-kernel import script (originally designed to just test darcs 
>with a huge repo, but provides a mostly working linux tree).
>
>So, without the flamewar, what is everyone's opinion on this? 
>  
>
Speaking as somebody that uses Darcs evey day, my opinion is that the 
future of OSS SCM will be something like arch or darcs but that neither 
are ready for projects the size of the linux kernel yet. Darcs is 
definitely way too slow for really large projects (though great for 
small to medium sized ones). Last I checked, Arch was still too slow in 
some areas, though that might have changed in recent months. Also, many 
people, me included, find the usability of arch to be from ideal.

My hope and expectation is that Arch and Darcs will both improve their 
performance, features, and usability and that in the not too distant 
future both of them will be viable alternatives for large scale source 
tree management.

The important thing for the health of the SCM ecosystem is that there be 
ways to losslessly convert and interoperate between them as well as 
between legacy/centralized systems such as CVS and SVN as well as with BK.

-Tupshin

  reply	other threads:[~2005-02-18  2:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-14  2:08 [BK] upgrade will be needed Larry McVoy
2005-02-14  6:02 ` Matthew Jacob
2005-02-14  6:17   ` Adam Sulmicki
2005-02-14  9:49 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-02-14 12:08 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-02-14 15:08   ` Jeff Sipek
2005-02-14 15:40     ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-14 16:21       ` linux-os
2005-02-14 17:12         ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-16 23:55           ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-17 20:33           ` David Weinehall
2005-02-17 21:31             ` Chris Wright
2005-02-14 17:14       ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-02-14 17:23         ` Russell Miller
2005-02-14 17:49           ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-14 18:33             ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-02-14 18:47             ` Steven Rostedt
     [not found]               ` <20050214190137.GB16029@bitmover.com>
     [not found]                 ` <1108415541.8413.48.camel@localhost.localdomain>
     [not found]                   ` <20050214231148.GP13174@bitmover.com>
     [not found]                     ` <1108425420.8413.78.camel@localhost.localdomain>
     [not found]                       ` <20050215000028.GS13174@bitmover.com>
     [not found]                         ` <1108426451.8413.84.camel@localhost.localdomain>
     [not found]                           ` <20050215003535.GB32158@bitmover.com>
2005-02-15  1:00                             ` Steven Rostedt
2005-02-15  3:01                               ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-15  3:39                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-02-15 14:05                                 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-02-14 19:29             ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-14 21:13               ` Erik Andersen
2005-02-14 18:17       ` Matthew Jacob
2005-02-14 18:36         ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-02-14 18:45           ` Matthew Jacob
2005-02-14 20:02           ` Matthias Andree
2005-02-15  5:13           ` Scott Lockwood
2005-02-14 18:56         ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-14 20:36           ` Adrian Bunk
2005-02-14 21:25             ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2005-02-14 23:02               ` Henrik Persson
2005-02-14 21:30           ` Tom Felker
2005-02-15  9:04             ` James Bruce
2005-02-16 17:31             ` Jeff Sipek
2005-02-14 23:24           ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-02-15  3:35             ` Horst von Brand
2005-02-15  5:23               ` Hua Zhong
2005-02-15 12:19           ` kernel
2005-02-15 12:45             ` linux-os
2005-02-15 13:39               ` Helge Hafting
2005-02-16  9:45             ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2005-02-16 10:21               ` Catalin Marinas
2005-02-16 13:40                 ` Schwaighofer Clemens
2005-02-16 15:39               ` d.c
2005-02-17  0:14                 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2005-02-16 15:43               ` Olivier Galibert
2005-02-16 17:01                 ` Sean
2005-02-17  0:11                 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2005-02-17  4:57                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-02-17  5:57                     ` Sean
2005-02-17  6:22                       ` d.c
2005-02-17  6:49                         ` Sean
2005-02-17 16:34                           ` Lee Revell
2005-02-17 16:40                             ` Sean
2005-02-17 16:55                               ` Chris Friesen
2005-02-17 16:58                                 ` Sean
2005-02-17 20:52                                   ` Horst von Brand
2005-02-17 21:24                                     ` Sean
2005-02-18  1:42                                       ` Horst von Brand
2005-02-18  7:52                                         ` Sean
2005-02-18 16:27                                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-02-18 18:34                                             ` Sean
2005-02-18 19:26                                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-02-18 19:31                                                 ` Sean
2005-02-18 19:46                                                   ` John Stoffel
2005-02-18 19:49                                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-02-18 19:57                                                     ` Sean
2005-02-19  0:59                                                       ` Horst von Brand
2005-02-18 20:45                                               ` d.c
2005-02-18 21:13                                                 ` David S. Miller
2005-02-18 21:34                                                   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-02-18 22:18                                                     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-02-18 22:35                                                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-02-19  7:53                                                         ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-02-23 19:15                                                 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-02-21  5:43                                             ` Miles Bader
2005-02-21  6:56                                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-02-21  7:00                                                 ` N/A Christof Dorner
2005-02-21 15:40                                                 ` [BK] upgrade will be needed Kevin P. Fleming
2005-02-17 23:25                                   ` Ed Tomlinson
2005-02-17 23:32                                     ` Sean
2005-02-17 23:54                                       ` Lee Revell
2005-02-17 23:56                                         ` Sean
2005-02-18  4:00                                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-02-18  4:03                                         ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2005-02-18  7:26                                         ` Sean
2005-02-18 12:31                                           ` Ed Tomlinson
2005-02-18  0:29                     ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2005-02-18  2:31                       ` Horst von Brand
2005-02-17  7:55                   ` Roland Kuhn
2005-02-17  8:09                     ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2005-02-17  9:27                       ` Roland Kuhn
2005-02-17 10:27                         ` Sean
2005-02-18  0:32                           ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2005-02-14 18:54       ` Juergen Stuber
2005-02-14 20:13         ` Matthew Dharm
2005-02-14 20:17         ` Matthias Andree
2005-02-15 17:26           ` Juergen Stuber
2005-02-15  2:46         ` Tristan Wibberley
2005-02-15 13:24           ` Tristan Wibberley
2005-02-14 19:44       ` Matthias Andree
2005-02-14 20:05         ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-14 22:24           ` Gerold Jury
2005-02-14 22:57             ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-14 23:23               ` David Lang
2005-02-15  0:03                 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-15  1:23                   ` David Lang
2005-02-15 16:34                   ` Olivier Galibert
2005-02-14 23:29               ` Gerold Jury
2005-02-15 13:55                 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-02-15 16:57                   ` Alan Cox
2005-02-17  0:00                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-17  1:41                     ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-02-17  9:46                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-02-17 12:36                       ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-17 14:07                         ` Citizen Number 24655
2005-02-17 15:05                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-02-17 16:27                       ` Florian Weimer
2005-02-18  8:32           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-02-15  2:13       ` Ed Tomlinson
2005-02-15  2:40         ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-15  3:04           ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-15 12:41           ` Ed Tomlinson
2005-02-15 13:56           ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-02-15 14:55             ` Anton Ertl
2005-02-14 13:13 ` Mws
2005-02-14 15:03   ` Steven Rostedt
2005-02-14 16:00     ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-14 17:21       ` Marcin Dalecki
2005-02-15 12:13       ` kernel
2005-02-16 23:46       ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-18  8:56     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-02-18  2:05 ` Patrick McFarland
2005-02-18  2:24   ` Tupshin Harper [this message]
2005-02-18  2:33     ` [darcs-users] " Sean
2005-02-18  9:09     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-02-18 10:58       ` Tomasz Zielonka
2005-02-18 11:53       ` Erik Bågfors
2005-02-18 12:50         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-02-19  9:10           ` Patrick McFarland
2005-02-19 10:17             ` Sean
2005-02-19 16:42             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-02-19 17:15               ` David Roundy
2005-02-19 17:53                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-02-21 12:41                   ` David Roundy
2005-02-21 18:33                     ` David Brown
2005-02-21 13:48                   ` Patrick McFarland
2005-02-20 10:36                 ` Ralph Corderoy
2005-02-18 17:50       ` Dustin Sallings
2005-02-21  5:39         ` Miles Bader
2005-02-21 15:53           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-02-21 19:45             ` zander
2005-02-21 20:27               ` Horst von Brand
2005-02-23 17:14               ` Andreas Gruenbacher
     [not found] <fa.g6qsmpt.131ka8d@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.i74fd0g.1j44204@ifi.uio.no>
2005-02-22  1:04   ` walt

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