From: Anthony DiSante <theant@nodivisions.com>
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Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: uninterruptible sleep lockups
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 15:24:21 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <421A4375.9040108@nodivisions.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200502211945.j1LJjgbZ029643@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
>>It seems like this problem is always going to exist, because some hardware
>>and some drivers will always be buggy. So shouldn't we have some sort of
>>watchdog higher up in the kernel, that watches for hung processes like this
>>and kills them?
>
> And said watchdog would clean up the mess, how, exactly? There's lots of sticky
> issues having to do with breaking locks and possibly still-pending I/O (I once had
> a tape drive complete an I/O 3 *days* after the request was sent - good thing no
> watchdog killed the process and deallocated the memory that I/O landed in ;)
I'm not a kernel programmer, so I don't have the answers to any of that. I
guess I was thinking that there'd be some way to distinguish between
processes that are truly stuck -- that is, never coming back -- and
processes like yours, that are taking a long time but still working.
Or maybe it SHOULD have killed your process, in some "proper" way that
prevents any outstanding I/O requests from coming in days later and breaking
things. Again, I'm no kernel hacker, but if an I/O request takes *3 days*,
isn't that an indication of a bug or of faulty hardware perhaps?
> It's been covered before, look in the lkml archives for details.
Thanks, I'll do that. But could you give me a more specific pointer?
Searching lkml for "uninterruptible" returns ~2000 results.
Thanks,
Anthony DiSante
http://nodivisions.com/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-02-21 20:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-02-21 19:18 uninterruptible sleep lockups Anthony DiSante
2005-02-21 19:45 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-02-21 20:24 ` Anthony DiSante [this message]
2005-02-21 20:54 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-02-21 22:18 ` Anthony DiSante
2005-02-21 22:43 ` Chris Friesen
2005-02-22 0:06 ` Anthony DiSante
2005-02-22 0:36 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-02-21 22:44 ` Anthony DiSante
2005-02-21 23:11 ` Nish Aravamudan
[not found] ` <421B12DB.70603@aitel.hist.no>
2005-02-22 11:16 ` Anthony DiSante
2005-02-22 12:26 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-02-22 12:35 ` Anthony DiSante
2005-02-22 13:47 ` linux-os
2005-02-22 20:03 ` Anthony DiSante
2005-02-22 20:16 ` Chris Friesen
2005-02-22 20:29 ` Anthony DiSante
2005-02-22 20:24 ` Horst von Brand
2005-02-22 20:56 ` Chris Friesen
2005-02-22 21:40 ` linux-os
2005-02-22 23:17 ` Chris Friesen
2005-02-22 23:42 ` linux-os
2005-02-23 0:25 ` Chris Friesen
2005-02-23 1:05 ` Horst von Brand
2005-02-23 10:04 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-02-22 21:31 ` Olaf Titz
2005-02-23 16:34 ` Nish Aravamudan
[not found] <fa.duv6ag6.p5mth0@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.irk349q.1c3si2o@ifi.uio.no>
2005-02-23 0:59 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-02-23 13:50 ` linux-os
2005-02-24 2:05 ` Bodo Eggert
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2005-02-23 16:55 Parag Warudkar
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